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phreebyrd
09-28-2009, 12:25 AM
i have 8 1 gallon projects going on and little red headed gnats are targeting one of my apple wines. there is about 5 of them. what do i do to get rid of them? why just that one? is this common? what did i do to get them? all i have is 1 bochet, 1 cherry wine, 2 orange apple wine mixes, 3 cinnamon apple wines, and 1 tea mead! the 1 of three apple wines they are targeting is just the same as the other except one is ground and the other was boiled sticks. the one that is the target is the boiled cinnamon. the recipes is this... 1 gallon of HEB central market organic apple juice (a few cups removed to have an even gallon), lalvin 1118, 2 cups sugar( roughly ) and boiled cinnamon sticks (about 1 and a half cups boiled and then boiled then cooled then boiled again with sticks), yeast nutrients, and thats about it. it is in the second fermentation. all together it has been fermenting 14 days. i should probably be imbarassed that i have insects but i really wanna know why, how to get rid of them and prevent them.

EverGreenman
09-28-2009, 12:51 AM
sounds like fruit flies. (bane of SATAN! not quite as bad as mosquitoes but damn close)

as long as you've got waterlocks on your jugs, you'll be safe. if you notice more showing up, which is pretty much inevitable if you have a few, some suggestions are fly paper near your bubbles, a tube vacuum cleaner to suck em up, a jar with rotting fruit and cellophane with small holes poked in it over the top placed near by, carnivorous plants (talk to TimV) aaand what else, oh, maybe a couple big spiders?

We've tried al of these with varying degrees of success. Needless to stay we have a fruit fly problem. but they stay out of our brews thanks to those waterlocks. that's what they're there for.

Medsen Fey
09-28-2009, 11:41 AM
Fruit flies are a pain, but not dangerous. If they do get into a batch, they won't cause sudden spoilage, but they can carry acetic acid bacteria and other potential spoilage organisms. If such bacteria are introduced into your batches, you just need to keep the oxygen exposure after fermentation to a minimum. Keep things topped up, and think about using sulfites.

To keep the fruit flies beaten back I make a mixture of water and dishsoap and then pour in a little balsamic vinegar. That draws them into the soapy water where they are trapped and die.

Endeavor to persevere!
Medsen

STLBrewer
09-28-2009, 01:59 PM
If you don't have the Balsamic Vinegar, just soapy water (I used Dawn, if it matters) seems to work pretty well too. Even though I bet the Vinegar would aid in drawing them in...

akueck
09-28-2009, 03:35 PM
We don't seem to have much in the way of fruit flies, but our solution to house flies is...cats. They love catching flies, and then eat them. Works for those giant cricket things too, though "torture" precedes eating for those guys.

A friend of mine uses a little cup of old wine. The fruit flies drown in it, what a way to go!

phreebyrd
09-29-2009, 02:15 AM
thanks guys i really was freaking out. i keep snakes and anytime theres extra life (bugs, mites) its pretty important but it sound likes like a common problem and a reason to get a really cool plant!!!!

Gardenmead
10-12-2009, 05:06 PM
Shoot!!

I thought this thread was gonna be about using insects in mead!

wildoates
10-12-2009, 05:20 PM
Shoot!!

I thought this thread was gonna be about using insects in mead!

Oh, I would definitely call that a bug, not a feature.

Heh heh heh

(I crack myself up)

Angelic Alchemist
10-12-2009, 06:19 PM
Shoot!!

I thought this thread was gonna be about using insects in mead!

Oh wow.

Extra protein?

Would you add them to the primary for color, or to the secondary for flavor and aroma?

Would they call for a special enzyme to prevent haze in the finished product?

Ask an insane woman a question: expect an insane answer.

Gardenmead
10-12-2009, 06:34 PM
At first I was joking, but on second thought it is not that far-fetched. If we are talking about bees and bee larvae that is.

I have made whole comb meads where some bees and larvae inevitable made it in.

Angelic Alchemist
10-12-2009, 06:57 PM
I'm sure some insects have theraputic properties. I heard smoking the tale of a scorpion causes intense hallucinations.

Joshnir
10-12-2009, 10:15 PM
I had the same problem with a ceyser I was doing, I just put a little bit of vodka in the airlock and also threw a blanket over the whole jug in the closet.

Gardenmead
10-13-2009, 09:09 AM
For fruit fly exclusion I have been trying different ways of putting a little piece of paper towel under or over the cap on the 3-piece airlock. Because The fruit flies can fit through the little holes on the cap.

It works pretty well but I am not sure how much it slows the passage of CO2 out of the airlock. It probably is inconsequential because the airlocks seem to bubble away as usual.

As far as smoking scorpion tales goes, that sounds like something from a story in "Arabian Nights".

Angelic Alchemist
10-13-2009, 12:32 PM
For fruit fly exclusion I have been trying different ways of putting a little piece of paper towel under or over the cap on the 3-piece airlock. Because The fruit flies can fit through the little holes on the cap.

It works pretty well but I am not sure how much it slows the passage of CO2 out of the airlock. It probably is inconsequential because the airlocks seem to bubble away as usual.

As far as smoking scorpion tales goes, that sounds like something from a story in "Arabian Nights".

Meh. Exotic is as exotic does.

I've had some success repelling insects with essential oils of citronella, lemongrass and Himalayan cedar. They also dislike smoke, so burning a stick of incense in the area usually coaxes them away.

Fishbone
10-13-2009, 02:56 PM
Anyone got any tips for ants?

Angelic Alchemist
10-13-2009, 03:14 PM
Keep your carboys in a tub of water. It provides a "moat" for ground dwelling insects and lowers the temperature of the must at the same time.

Fisher kel Tath
10-15-2009, 01:58 AM
Keep your carboys in a tub of water. It provides a "moat" for ground dwelling insects and lowers the temperature of the must at the same time.

Just as long as they aren't carpenter ants....

Come to find the next day, your moat has half a dozen ships circling it and they've built a draw bridge...

Oskaar
10-15-2009, 02:59 AM
Just as long as they aren't carpenter ants....

Come to find the next day, your moat has half a dozen ships circling it and they've built a draw bridge...

As long as there's no large, brooding wooden horse. Otherwise, I hit the road with my recipe book! :eek:

ibwahooka
10-19-2009, 05:51 PM
At first I was joking, but on second thought it is not that far-fetched. If we are talking about bees and bee larvae that is.

I have made whole comb meads where some bees and larvae inevitable made it in.

Put a bee in the bottom of your bottle. Kind of like tequila/mescal.