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bluebeard
04-13-2010, 01:49 PM
Iw ould like to steer in a positive direction for a moment and share with you a positive group of highly educated (PhDs) that have made a business out of helping winemakers/brewers/mazers.

Vinquiry.com is a truly impressive group. Their site is jam-packed with reference materials orbiting around the science of Oenology and bio-chemistry as it relates to the "fermented arts". Their store is targeted to lab/technical supplies and additives. The store is not really the target of what they do. They offer anaylsis servies to the amature and professional alike, trouble-shooting services and valuable advice.

While they are primarily a commerical service, they were very nice and provided a layman translation and explanation to my questions. These PhDs and labtechs are apparently a diametric opposition to the clowns on St. Pat's staff. By the way, I actually wnet into the shop when down in TX for a wind energy conference 2 years ago. They are just as arrogant in real life as they are over the phone, though considerably more animated.

Before jumping to wind and bio-enegy I was in the nuclear world for a good part of my life. I lectured at Lawrence Livermore Labs at U.C. Berkeley as a guest, taught at Moffet Field (NASA), China Lake (US NAVY Electronic Warfare and TopGun exercise range) and lots of other places. I do not have a PhD, nor do I desire one. Point is, I was invited to teach at these places because I made a real life contribution to industries associated with these areas. Each time, I would be approached by the PhDs in the audience and heartily congratulated...until they found out I was not a PhD. Most of them walked away wiping their hands on their pants as if shaking mine had soiled them somehow. Many, not all.

I find that the level of someone's formal learning does not usually change the essence of the person. If you were a jerk when you started, a degree just makes you a pedigreed jerk in the eyes of the other jerks you surround yourself with.

Wisdom comes from experience and reflection upon failures not from reaading and commenting on the pages of a text book written from the lessons of someone else's lifetime of cultivated wisdom.

Oskaar
04-13-2010, 10:35 PM
Iw ould like to steer in a positive direction for a moment and share with you a positive group of highly educated (PhDs) that have made a business out of helping winemakers/brewers/mazers.

Vinquiry.com is a truly impressive group. Their site is jam-packed with reference materials orbiting around the science of Oenology and bio-chemistry as it relates to the "fermented arts". Their store is targeted to lab/technical supplies and additives. The store is not really the target of what they do. They offer anaylsis servies to the amature and professional alike, trouble-shooting services and valuable advice.

While they are primarily a commerical service, they were very nice and provided a layman translation and explanation to my questions. These PhDs and labtechs are apparently a diametric opposition to the clowns on St. Pat's staff. By the way, I actually wnet into the shop when down in TX for a wind energy conference 2 years ago. They are just as arrogant in real life as they are over the phone, though considerably more animated.

Before jumping to wind and bio-enegy I was in the nuclear world for a good part of my life. I lectured at Lawrence Livermore Labs at U.C. Berkeley as a guest, taught at Moffet Field (NASA), China Lake (US NAVY Electronic Warfare and TopGun exercise range) and lots of other places. I do not have a PhD, nor do I desire one. Point is, I was invited to teach at these places because I made a real life contribution to industries associated with these areas. Each time, I would be approached by the PhDs in the audience and heartily congratulated...until they found out I was not a PhD. Most of them walked away wiping their hands on their pants as if shaking mine had soiled them somehow. Many, not all.

I find that the level of someone's formal learning does not usually change the essence of the person. If you were a jerk when you started, a degree just makes you a pedigreed jerk in the eyes of the other jerks you surround yourself with.

Wisdom comes from experience and reflection upon failures not from reaading and commenting on the pages of a text book written from the lessons of someone else's lifetime of cultivated wisdom.

I regularly attend Vinquiry seminars, lectures and have spent time with some of their folks in the wine labs at various wineries. They are a complete class act who put on very informative sessions in California, Oregon and Washington.

Cheers,

Oskaar

P.S. I moved this post to the Hive from the GotMead News section so that it would not interrupt the rant thread, and because Vinquiry deserves to be in it's own thread.