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keepitlow
08-08-2010, 01:02 PM
How many batches of mead / wine / beer do you make per year?

akueck
08-08-2010, 01:57 PM
As many as I can find space for. :)

I think I'm averaging about 10 batches/year except for this year (2), which is my low mark since I started. Average batch size is probably around 3 gallons, and I'm running about 60% beer, 30% mead, and 10% cider.

AToE
08-08-2010, 02:07 PM
I started just over a year ago and have done roughly 40 batches, but a lot of those were 1 gallon.

d.j.patterson
08-08-2010, 03:05 PM
I only started 6 months ago, but I have done 4 batchs so far. I have 4 more planned, I am just waiting for the temperatures to come back down.

wildoates
08-08-2010, 04:19 PM
Not as many as I wish I could afford. :)

Chevette Girl
08-08-2010, 05:32 PM
As many as I can find space for. :)


That's my limiting factor too!

<inhale> I had to know, so I just went through my whole log book and made a list, put it into a spreadsheet... here's the breakdown.

2004 - 12 batches totalling 26 gallons, of which 10 gallons were from wine kits, 3 gallons traditional mead, the rest, country wines made with sugar.

2005 - 7 batches totalling 14 gallons, one of which was acerglyn, the rest, country wines.

2006 - 27 batches totalling 60 gallons, of which 3 gal were melomels, one acerglyn, 5 gal traditional mead, 4 gal JAO or variations, and 15 gal was kit wines for my mother's wedding, the rest country wines.

2007 - 15 batches totalling 24 gallons, of which 5 gal were melomels, 5 gal JAO variations, one gal sherry and a 5 gal wine kit, the rest country wines.

2008 - 12 batches totalling 18.5 gallons, of which 5 gal are JAO or variations, 1 gallon melomel, 5 gallons acerglyn and the rest, country wines.

2009 - 11 batches totalling 29 gallons, of which 7 gal are JAO variations, 3 gal perry, 1 gal melomel, 15 gallons of kit wine for my wedding and only one 3-gal batch of country wine!

2010 - 16 batches totalling 21 gal already with plans for 5 gal chocolate group brew, 5 gal of JAO variations, 3 gal ice wine made from a 5 gal kit, 3 gal metheglyns, 1 gal acerglyn, 2 gal show meads, 2 gal port, 4 gal melomels and a gallon of hydromel (but not in a pear tree). No country wines as of yet but I will be doing a bunch as fruits ripen and I get stuff bottled to make more room.

Looks like I'll be hitting 200 gal this year... :D and I think the pear experiment I started last night was my 100th batch!!

... so, an average of 15 batches per year, around 30 gallons per year.

Tannin Boy
08-08-2010, 06:11 PM
That's my limiting factor too!

<inhale> I had to know, so I just went through my whole log book and made a list, put it into a spreadsheet... here's the breakdown.

2004 - 12 batches totalling 26 gallons, of which 10 gallons were from wine kits, 3 gallons traditional mead, the rest, country wines made with sugar.

2005 - 7 batches totalling 14 gallons, one of which was acerglyn, the rest, country wines.

2006 - 27 batches totalling 60 gallons, of which 3 gal were melomels, one acerglyn, 5 gal traditional mead, 4 gal JAO or variations, and 15 gal was kit wines for my mother's wedding, the rest country wines.

2007 - 15 batches totalling 24 gallons, of which 5 gal were melomels, 5 gal JAO variations, one gal sherry and a 5 gal wine kit, the rest country wines.

2008 - 12 batches totalling 18.5 gallons, of which 5 gal are JAO or variations, 1 gallon melomel, 5 gallons acerglyn and the rest, country wines.

2009 - 11 batches totalling 29 gallons, of which 7 gal are JAO variations, 3 gal perry, 1 gal melomel, 15 gallons of kit wine for my wedding and only one 3-gal batch of country wine!

2010 - 16 batches totalling 21 gal already with plans for 5 gal chocolate group brew, 5 gal of JAO variations, 3 gal ice wine made from a 5 gal kit, 3 gal metheglyns, 1 gal acerglyn, 2 gal show meads, 2 gal port, 4 gal melomels and a gallon of hydromel (but not in a pear tree). No country wines as of yet but I will be doing a bunch as fruits ripen and I get stuff bottled to make more room.

Looks like I'll be hitting 200 gal this year... :D and I think the pear experiment I started last night was my 100th batch!!

... so, an average of 15 batches per year, around 30 gallons per year.


Holy Cow, when do you find time to sleep:eek:
Bet you have garnered a whole lot of great experience....

mmclean
08-08-2010, 06:30 PM
I just started about three weeks ago. I've got six, one gallon batches of JAO under the counter. Buying up honey for as soon as they are empty. Have a five bucket and carboy waiting for cooler weather. Maybe I can get 26 gallons +/- by the end of the year.

But just wait until next year.:)

Chevette Girl
08-08-2010, 07:48 PM
Holy Cow, when do you find time to sleep:eek:
Bet you have garnered a whole lot of great experience....

Heh heh... being unemployed for the last nine months has really helped... I have a lot of experience with fruit processing and sanitary methods, but I think I've learned more about the science behind fermentaion in the couple of months I've been following this forum than I did in the last 5 years... it's not the starting of batches that takes the time (well, except when I'm processing a lot of fruit, but I often do that in advance and freeze it), it's the bottling. Specifically, cleaning and de-labelling bottles... this is why there are at least two or three things each from 2006, 2007 and 2008 that are still bulk-aging among the 50 gallons currently in the kitchen...

Mmclean, welcome to the addiction!!

AToE
08-08-2010, 09:17 PM
I'm so lazy that 90% of my bottles still have the old labels on them. Looks terrible, but if I'm serving it to someone else I just decant it out of sight, and if it's for myself then hey, what do I care?:)

PitBull
08-08-2010, 09:43 PM
In the past two years I have made ten 5 or 6 gallon batches of wine or mead and one six gallon batch of beer. Also two one-gallon batches of mead and a two 2-gallon batches of beer. Total 69 gallons.

I now have 5 carboys that are 5 gallons or larger and plan to ramp up production in September when it starts to cool down a bit.

epetkus
08-08-2010, 09:58 PM
Over the last, not quite two years, I have ~ 50 gallons over 12 batches, most are 6 gallon, a few 3 gallon, a couple of 1 gal. JAO's, etc.

My issue is mostly space. Here in FL I have to use a fridge for my ferments, plus, I do all of my bulk aging in there as well, so I end up with gaps in my mead making.

On the positive side, I'm just now feeling like I'm over the hump of having to wait to drink some good not-too-young mead because the backlog is finally enough. Although, I took stock and dang! I need to keep making more!

Eric

PitBull
08-08-2010, 10:12 PM
On the positive side, I'm just now feeling like I'm over the hump of having to wait to drink some good not-too-young mead because the backlog is finally enough. Although, I took stock and dang! I need to keep making more!

Eric
I'm sure that's a common sentiment. I'm planning on having another 30 gallons going by the holidays. I think that's when I'll be happy with the quantity, variety, and age of of my inventory.

I have well over 100 bottles of wine/mead in the house and produce more than I consume. Obsession is not necessarily a bad thing. And remember, age improves with mead, perhaps even more than mead improves with age.

Fisher kel Tath
08-09-2010, 02:01 AM
7 so far, still 2 months till my first year closes and plan on getting atleast another 1 started in that time. Mostly 1g batches, because I've spent the year experementing with mead and 1g lets you come up with a recipe without major investment. My latest batch was my first 3g batch.

Tannin Boy
08-09-2010, 05:35 AM
I'm sure that's a common sentiment. I'm planning on having another 30 gallons going by the holidays. I think that's when I'll be happy with the quantity, variety, and age of of my inventory.

I have well over 100 bottles of wine/mead in the house and produce more than I consume. Obsession is not necessarily a bad thing. And remember, age improves with mead, perhaps even more than mead improves with age.

As a beginner from the fall time of 2009 I have made 15 gallons cider, 27 gallons wine, and 5-3 gallon batches Mead! Whew...that's a lot of work :p
It's a curse I tell ya....one thing leads to another and before you know it your hooked into this brewing loop..As soon as one finishes you feel that you must have something in the fermenter ;D

GhostVox
08-09-2010, 06:49 AM
Obsessed? Who's obsessed?!?! Okay, I guess I am a little ocd with this.... In the last month I've started 9 one gallon batches and 1 five gallon batch of meads. The kids use to look forward to going to the zoo and such on the weekends. Now it the extended trip to the nearest brew shop an hour away so that we can look around at all the cool stuff that I keep saying that I need for the next batch!

DaleP
08-09-2010, 08:52 AM
I make about 15 gallons a year these days. Have found my favorite honeys, favorite fruits so that keeps me well stocked. Also make about 20-25 gallons of cider and around 100 gallons of ale every year.

jkane
08-09-2010, 10:54 AM
I have NEVER made more than 100 gallons per adult maximum 2 adults per household! ;)

tatgeer
08-09-2010, 04:55 PM
It's been steadily increasing as I increase the number/volume of carboys I have.

In 2009:
8 1 gallon batches of mead
2 5 gallon batches of mead
3 5 gallon batches of beer
13 batches brewed, 33 gallons

so far in 2010:
5 1 gallon batches of mead
2 5 gallon batches of mead
1 5 gallon batch of beer
8 batches, 20 gallons

This year I've been cutting way back in preparation for a cross-country move. Sadly, the moving company won't take alcohol, and my Civic will only carry so much, so I've been taking inventory to figure out what I want to take and what will be dispersed to friends. As of a few weeks ago, I had 18 gallons that needed to be bottled and about 12 gallons that were already bottled. I've been brewing since 2006, I believe.

Today's project: bottle the 3 5-gallon carboys that have been sitting in the dining room.

And yes, I'm postponing that overwhelming task by sitting at my computer and going through my old brew logs. :)

storm1969
08-09-2010, 08:09 PM
hmmm...

It varies a lot.

I do one large batch of grape wine that's 30-40 gallons,

Then do 3-6 more batches that are a minimum of 5 gallons each. Usually 1 or 2 fruit wines/meads, a traditional mead or two and the occasional odd one...

JKane, As head of a household (if married) you can make 200 gallons a year (of wine/mead)...

I have never come close.

Tannin Boy
08-10-2010, 05:45 AM
Heh heh... being unemployed for the last nine months has really helped... I have a lot of experience with fruit processing and sanitary methods, but I think I've learned more about the science behind fermentaion in the couple of months I've been following this forum than I did in the last 5 years... it's not the starting of batches that takes the time (well, except when I'm processing a lot of fruit, but I often do that in advance and freeze it), it's the bottling. Specifically, cleaning and de-labelling bottles... this is why there are at least two or three things each from 2006, 2007 and 2008 that are still bulk-aging among the 50 gallons currently in the kitchen...

Mmclean, welcome to the addiction!!

I like to reuse 1.5 Ml bottles and that seems to make it worth the trouble.
When I get to 750Ml. then I start buying them. That said, I am very lucky as the distributor is a couple of blocks down the road. I pay 12.85 case so that is not to bad, I do rather give away the 350Ml. bottles but they are a bit pricey at $18.50 case...These make a nice presentation yet I would rather give the 500Ml. they would be the perfect size for gifts IMHO. They do not carry them often unless they get a large order by request.

Some of those labels on the used bottles are way to tough to get off even after soaking, dam near need a jackhammer! :mad:

Chevette Girl
08-10-2010, 09:19 AM
Some of those labels on the used bottles are way to tough to get off even after soaking, dam near need a jackhammer! :mad:

Yeah, if I find I need to get out the Goo Gone to get a label off, I put it in the "take it back" pile ($.15 each at the beer store)

jkane
08-10-2010, 09:32 AM
JKane, As head of a household (if married) you can make 200 gallons a year (of wine/mead)...

I have never come close.

Depends on the state you are in. Fortunatly I am in Wi where we have no restrictions beyond the fedral law. Georgia (a few years ago anyhow) was 50 gallons and head of household was further defined. That might get too political though!

The 2 adults was what I meant by being married and and then you can have 100 gallons times 2 made!

Including beer, I have come very close a few times. Especially back in the mid 90's when I was making a batch of beer every weekend. 52 weekends in a year times 5 gallons ... Well, it wasn't EVERY weekend. I took some holidays off. ;D

Now days I do bigger batches less often.

I always wondered ... since the wine law and the beer law were enacted at different times, does that mean we can make 200 gallons of EACH!? Then where does mead really fall? Many hoembrewers consider it beer since the BJCP is the official place to judge it, could we consider it beer and/or wine? That way if we make too much wine, it could be our beer allocation, or the other way around. :confused:

Medsen Fey
08-10-2010, 10:05 AM
I always wondered ... since the wine law and the beer law were enacted at different times, does that mean we can make 200 gallons of EACH!? Then where does mead really fall?

My understanding (and I'm no attorney) is that Mead is classified as a wine by the TTB. Any of you commercial guys care to elaborate?

Under the code of federal regulations, the home beer (25.205 (http://www.ttb.gov/beer/25_205.htm)) and home wine (24.75 (http://www.ttb.gov/wine/24_75.htm)) exemptions from taxation are entirely separate sections. You are therefore entitled to produce up to 200 gallons of beer and to produce up to 200 gallons of wine as well. I expect that if you consume more than that, you might need to seek some professional treatment.

I'm not quite sure where Braggots and Sake are classified in this.

Jord
08-10-2010, 03:31 PM
I have NEVER made more than 100 gallons per adult maximum 2 adults per household! ;)

Well OF COURSE you haven't. No RESPONSIBLE, LAW ABIDING citizen would. :D

I've been tinkering with this brewing addiction over the last year and a bit and have made 1 gallon JAO, a 3 gallon traditional, 1 gallon of cider, 5 gallons of beer, 3 gallons of JQP, and I have 5 gallons of cyser in secondary now. I'm planning to start a barolo kit for a friend in the next couple off weeks and while not taking officially taking part in the group brew I think I'm going to try and make a 5 gallon batch of Caramilk mead....oh and I hope to get a stout going in the next couple of weeks so I have something to drink over the winter while shovelling the driveway. :)

AToE
08-13-2010, 06:35 PM
I have NEVER made more than 100 gallons per adult maximum 2 adults per household! ;)

I got curious and looked into this for Alberta, ours is just per household, nothing to do with being married or how many people are in it.

We can make 460L (121.5 US gallons) per year each of wine, beer and cider, but cannot make say 364.5 gal of just one kind. There's nothing about mead, but I'm almost 100% sure that it is classified as wine here.

Seems pretty reasonable, any more than that and you start looking like a bootlegger.

We do have special laws for pro mead makers though that allow you to make whatever qty you want if it's for sale and you have an apiary (there were apparently issues before because to be a commercial fermentory (made up word...) you had to be making large qtys, and that's not condusive to cottage industry).

AToE
08-15-2010, 12:27 AM
I got curious and looked into this for Alberta, ours is just per household, nothing to do with being married or how many people are in it.

We can make 460L (121.5 US gallons) per year each of wine, beer and cider, but cannot make say 364.5 gal of just one kind. There's nothing about mead, but I'm almost 100% sure that it is classified as wine here.

Seems pretty reasonable, any more than that and you start looking like a bootlegger.

We do have special laws for pro mead makers though that allow you to make whatever qty you want if it's for sale and you have an apiary (there were apparently issues before because to be a commercial fermentory (made up word...) you had to be making large qtys, and that's not condusive to cottage industry).

Sorry to quote my self, but someone just pointed out to me that I was reading our law totally wrong. It does not say anything about making those quantities per year - it is specifically worded to say that one cannot exceeed that quantity of home made ___ physically in the residence.

So effectively I can make ANY amount, as long as I never have more than 460L of home made beer/cider/wine in my house at a time.

THAT is more like it!

wayneb
08-15-2010, 09:55 AM
What an enlightened law that encourages you to be generous and give all your "excess" production away to friends! Another reason that I like Canada!! ;D

Chevette Girl
08-15-2010, 11:53 AM
Hey, AToE, what search criteria did you look for to find this info? I've just spent half an hour looking for Ontatio's laws on the subject and all I've tripped over so far are the Liquor Lisence Act (which doesn't mention anything other than brew-on-premises places), and the Liquor Control Act which I haven't read all the way through yet but so far sounds like it's just the Liquor Control Board of Ontario's regulations on how they operate (if we want to purchase alcohol here, we go to the LCBO store)...

AToE
08-15-2010, 05:06 PM
I did it the lazy way, I went onto the local brew club's forum and just started a thread asking, because I couldn't find anything either. Right away somone started quoting the law, and then people started pointing out how the wording is per each type of booze, and per amount in the residence at a time, not per year.

Tannin Boy
08-15-2010, 05:42 PM
My understanding (and I'm no attorney) is that Mead is classified as a wine by the TTB. Any of you commercial guys care to elaborate?

Under the code of federal regulations, the home beer (25.205 (http://www.ttb.gov/beer/25_205.htm)) and home wine (24.75 (http://www.ttb.gov/wine/24_75.htm)) exemptions from taxation are entirely separate sections. You are therefore entitled to produce up to 200 gallons of beer and to produce up to 200 gallons of wine as well. I expect that if you consume more than that, you might need to seek some professional treatment.

I'm not quite sure where Braggots and Sake are classified in this.

Medsen,

I hope you are right with respect to the volumes...This means I have quite a bit of leeway to go in my fermenting schedule...;D

Problem is with the friends I have I can't keep up to them now.....:mad: