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THawk
04-11-2011, 08:52 AM
Is this a cleanser or a sanitizer/sterilizer or both?

The label has it as a cleanser, but the NewBee guide has it listed as "sanitize" as opposed to just "clean".

PitBull
04-11-2011, 09:44 AM
Is this a cleanser or a sanitizer/sterilizer or both?

The label has it as a cleanser, but the NewBee guide has it listed as "sanitize" as opposed to just "clean".
It is a cleanser. To be classified as a sanitizer, vigorous testing and certification is required. Sanitation is probably the most important step in producing good wine/mead. That being said, I have made numerous batches without using anything actually labeled “sanitizer. I made sure my carboys were cleaned and rinsed after they are used. Then I cleaned them with warm soapy water and a carboy brush before their next use. Then I used a one-step cleanser, and then a final rinse with clean water.

I have finally purchased my first iodine-based sanitizer, but I don’t think its going to make a lot of difference. It’s just an extra layer of protection (perhaps overkill) for already very clean carboys.

mmclean
04-11-2011, 09:57 AM
I've made ten batches in the last year using LD Carlson Easy Clean (same as 1 step) as cleanser and sanitizer. So far no problems. :)

THawk
04-11-2011, 10:04 AM
Well, I can get bleach in large quantities for next to nothing, but the reason why I got 1-step was because it was environmentally friendly...

I was planning to just fill my bucket, drop in the required amount of 1-step (1 tbsp/gallon) and soak my stuff for the required 2 minutes (after washing them, of course). Am I being too simplistic here?

PitBull
04-11-2011, 10:19 AM
Well, I can get bleach in large quantities for next to nothing, but the reason why I got 1-step was because it was environmentally friendly...

I was planning to just fill my bucket, drop in the required amount of 1-step (1 tbsp/gallon) and soak my stuff for the required 2 minutes (after washing them, of course). Am I being too simplistic here?
That two minutes only works if the fermenter is already relatively clean. If you have some build-up, You'll need some soap and elbow grease first, and then I'd increase the contact time.

commonsenseman
04-11-2011, 01:29 PM
I use StarSan because it's highly recommended, no-rinse, easy to use, & cheap. I just fill up a spray bottle with the mixture & spray it on everything before I use it, 100% safe & very effective. The main advantage I've found over one-step or easy-clean is that StarSan is a liquid, so no chunks & it stays mixed together in the spray bottle.

To each his own.

TheAlchemist
04-11-2011, 07:43 PM
That two minutes only works if the fermenter is already relatively clean. If you have some build-up, You'll need some soap and elbow grease first, and then I'd increase the contact time.

I thought soap was the enemy of mead.

PitBull
04-11-2011, 08:14 PM
I thought soap was the enemy of mead.
The one-step will remove any soap film left on the carboy.

Medsen Fey
04-13-2011, 09:46 AM
Well, I can get bleach in large quantities for next to nothing, but the reason why I got 1-step was because it was environmentally friendly...

I avoid bleach.
The tropics tend to have plenty of mold. Mold exposed to chlorine can produce TCA. Your mead/wine can be ruined by TCA formed across the room. So unless your brewing area has no wood, cardboard, plywood or any other mold harboring materials anywhere in the vicinity, I'd recommend using non-bleach products.

wildoates
04-13-2011, 12:46 PM
I use 1-step and its ilk to clean, I don't use soap, not even on my wine glasses.

oldwhiskers
04-13-2011, 05:30 PM
I have been using One Step but have been think of changing to LD Carlson Easy Clean since it is nearly half as much as One Step.

Braxton
04-14-2011, 02:53 PM
Easy Clean is basically a knock off of one step, they are chemically and practically very close. I've never had issues with either one. Though they are technically not classified as a sanitizer, most homebrewers use it for this purpose and it seems to work well. An iodine or acid based sanitizer, such as Iodophor or Star San, is theoretically more effective. These types of sanitizer can also be saved and reused, while one-step or easy clean will lose its effectiveness after just a couple of hours.

As a cleaner, One-Step and Easy Clean are not very effective when compared to other cleaners such as PBW.

Hope that helps!