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dave_witt
08-03-2011, 06:51 PM
I started 5 gallons of spiced cyser last October, hoping to have it ready for this winter. It's just been sitting for at least 6 months now; I just racked to a clean carboy for the 3rd time. It looks and smells great--just burns on the way down. Almost like a cheap whiskey. Almost to the point where it covers up the taste. :rolleyes:

Could be the fact that the mead spiked to 76 degrees this past week--If that's the case, I've managed to clear room in our 3rd fridge for a 5 gallon carboy, so hopefully it'll help. Could also be the 16.5% ABV. ;) At any rate, I'm pondering the idea that 4 months may not be enough to get rid of that burn.

So, has anyone had the luck of a somewhat good burn dissipating within 4-5 months? Or should I just be planning on drinking this in Fall '12? :p

AToE
08-03-2011, 07:00 PM
Oh yeah, 6 months or so is very little time for high-ABV burn to dissapate. Also that heat wave during aging shouldn't cause burn, just too much heat during fermentation. Even meads I make aroun 13 or 14 % take at least a year for the noticable alcohol taste to mellow out.

Medsen Fey
08-03-2011, 07:09 PM
I'd guess you're looking at another year at minimum.
What was the recipe and fermentation temp? If you fuseled it up, you could be waiting a long while.

fatbloke
08-04-2011, 03:05 PM
Don't forget, a tried and tested (both homebrew and commercially) way of covering up any "alcohol hot" taste, is to sweeten it up.

The commercially made meads I've tried here, are all cloyingly sweet - dessert meads, I suppose they'd be described as (FG, IRO 1.040).

It just depends on how your batch is now, whether you could get away with that or not......

dave_witt
08-07-2011, 10:44 AM
I'd guess you're looking at another year at minimum.
What was the recipe and fermentation temp? If you fuseled it up, you could be waiting a long while.

It fermented at 69F.

Recipe follows:

Cyser (Dreyma Refa)
10/26/10
Initial SG: (calculated) 1.145 (measure) 1.126
pH: 4
PABV: 16.5%
ABV: 0%
Balling: 29.3%

Finishing ABV: 17%
Finishing Balling: 1%

PRIMARY
3 gallons cider
1 gallon water
12 pounds blackberry honey
1.25 cup brown sugar
1.25 cup raisins
3 vanilla beans, cut and scrapped
D-47

SECONDARY
10 cinnamon sticks
10 cloves?
3 vanilla beans?

Left 3 gallons of cider out overnight, and it began fermenting. Pasteurized cider at 145 degrees and honey for 8 minutes. Let cool, added ingredients, yeast. Fermenting quickly after a few hours. Very strong scent.

Above calculations are from reading, not calculated. However, reading didnít take into account sugar locked into raisins. Theoretical PABV is about 17%, balling 33%. This may finish dry.

Blackberry honey is rich and dark, but doesnít taste much like berries like I was told. Weíll see how this turns out, but I donít think itís worth $75 for the honey again.

11/6/10
Still fermenting rather strongly. Has an odd scent. There doesnít appear to be any mold or fungus, etc. I canít remember how it smelled the last time I made this stuff. I shouldnít be too worried about it. I need to take an SG reading of this to see how far itís gone.

11/30/10
Took a sample for SG measurement. Smells, tastes fine. Has a very strong kick to it. Thisíll need to sit a while. This may need some back sweetening, but not sure yet.

SG: 1.006 at 69 F
PAVB: .75%
AVB: 16%
Balling: 1.5%

12/1/10
Racked to secondary. Added 12 cinnamon sticks (a couple were small), 12 cloves ( to kill the bag), 3 vanilla beans. Weíll see how the extra spice holds up in the blackberry honey. Still fermenting slowly. I may add some nutrient, but I donít want to step feed the yeast, especially since itís D47. Hopefully itíll finish slight off-dry, but I doubt it.

12/5/10
Keeping an eye on this. Itís clearing, but itís doing that thing on the surface where the bubbles are sticking and it seems to have some type of film on the surface. Smells ok, though.

12/9/10
Still clearing. ďBubblesĒ have started to go away. I donít want to wait another 7 months to drink this. >.>

12/23/10
Racked to tertiary. No extra ingredients. Slight burn, but tastes ok. Much more milder flavors than last time. Dangerous because itís still 16% alcohol. >.>

SG: 1.005 at 68 F
PAVB: .75%
AVB: 16%
Balling: 1.5%

5/11/11
Tasted. Still has a slight burn, but less than last time if I remember correctly. Milder flavors. Strong.

8/3/11
Racked to quad. No new ingredients. Still has that burn, which is a bit disconcerting, strong kick. Mild flavors. No yeast flavor.

SG: 1.004 at 76F
PAVB: .5%
AVB: 16.25%
Balling: 1%