View Full Version : JAO Fruit Won't Drop

04-04-2012, 05:55 PM
Hi everyone! Thanks to all the awesome info here I have a finished and cleared 2.5 gallon batch of JAO sitting in my pantry.
However, the fruit doesn't seem to be dropping as quickly as I expected.

The fermentation stopped well over a month ago (might even be 2 by now, I forget), it has been fully cleared for at least a month now as well but less than a quarter of my fruit has dropped.
As far as I can tell the mead seems to be fully degassed (no bubbles if I knock on the carboy).

Initially a few orange slices and raisins dropped, then they went back up, then a few more dropped and it hasn't moved since. It's been at least a couple of weeks since it has done anything at all.

I was wondering what I should do? I want to try my mead!

Also, the guy at the brewing store where I picked up my racking cane and hose told me it's ok to just suck on the end of the hose to get the flow started, is this true? I was under the impression that I could contaminate my batch by doing that.

Thanks for all the help guys!

Just for the record this batch was started just before Christmas so it should definitely be done by now from what I've read.

04-04-2012, 06:00 PM
Hey - can't reply re fruit drop, but re sucking on hoses there's a current discussion going on the subject in the "siphon starting" thread. :-)


04-04-2012, 06:05 PM
i would suggest ordering an auto siphon. I've had mine for 5 years and love it. With the auto siphon, you don't have to worry about sucking on the end to start it.


Sadie Lady
04-04-2012, 06:09 PM
Here's another thread right now: Racking the Mead

I have a JAO, but not as old as yours, 2 months I believe. No fruit has dropped, going to give it another week. I think the original directions say you can wait till the fruit drops, but don't have too. Can you take a small sample of it to taste? If you like the taste, I think you can put a little filter over the end of the racking device and move it down past the fruit, then rack without getting a lot of stuff in your bottles.

Search on filter, lots of different ideas out there about what to put on the end of the hose to filter.

04-04-2012, 08:32 PM
When it's clear I just siphon below it. But, Im an impatient sort :-)

Chevette Girl
04-04-2012, 10:54 PM
I usually find the fruit drops a week or two after it clears, but if yours has been clear for a month it might be being extra stubborn! Although, if some of the fruit has fallen, the rest will probably follow suit within a couple more weeks.

If you're going to be impatient, I'd recommend you either rack or strain it into another container and let everything settle out again, or if you want to try to bottle it straight from where it is now, swirl it around for a few minutes and then leave it alone for a couple of days first - this will help dislodge any carbon dioxide and loose yeast from the fruit, it might get the fruit to sink as a result but even if it doesn't it will prevent all kinds of yeast from falling off the fruit if you try to stick a racking cane or hose end down past the floaties. If you just want a taste so you can stop obsessing about it, grab the turkey baster and fish yourself out a little sample :)

04-04-2012, 11:25 PM
yes, turkey baster makes a great cheap wine theif!

04-04-2012, 11:40 PM
We often read a recipe like JAO and take the suggested timescale as gospel. Forgetting that the yeast is also a natural organism.

Just because its not behaving to a human time frame, you just need patience.

Joe alludes to it being drinkable once the fruit has dropped, I've never found that. I age mine for at least 6 months....

04-05-2012, 10:12 AM
I find it generally takes about 4 months for the fruit to drop in my JAO batches. I've always waited for the fruit to drop and I've never been disappointed in the results.

If you're feeling impatient, instead of bottling it early I suggest starting another batch. You'll be glad you did.

04-05-2012, 10:18 AM
+1 on starting a new batch. I perfer to wait 9-12 months to drink.

04-05-2012, 10:26 AM
When frisky and impatient just brew more!! so less wait next time ;)

04-05-2012, 10:36 AM
+1 on the making more.

The more you have on hand the easier it is to keep a couple bottles from each batch for a long term aging.

04-05-2012, 12:10 PM
We often read a recipe like JAO and take the suggested timescale as gospel. Forgetting that the yeast is also a natural organism

+1 to that-

also, the fruit used can vary wildy in water content. Temp can also affect the bouancy of the fruit, as can the level of disolved CO2 in the mead.