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obscured by clouds
02-17-2013, 10:36 PM
I figure everyone is allowed one stupid question per hobby. Here is mine.

At the end of the night I often like tea's that have sleepy properties. All sorts with different natural plants and such. Only downside is most do not have pleasant flavors but put enough honey and it's all good! ;D

Looking into the chemicals of the plants and herbs, I was wondering if the same can be done with mead? However I have no idea if these two things are even compatible to start with no less on dosage and taste. Will the chemicals in the plants even be effective in mead?

Thoughts suggestions?

Cheers!

kudapucat
02-17-2013, 10:54 PM
The short answer is yes.
The long answer is 500 pages or so.
It can be found here: http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Herbal-Healing-Beers-Fermentation/dp/0937381667

The book is about beer, but it talks about mead, and the properties and uses wont change.

The other advantage is that alcohol is a depressant, so will also help you sleep.

obscured by clouds
02-17-2013, 11:25 PM
The short answer is yes. I like that! Checked out the book and looks like something I should have to my collection. It had me at psychotropics ;D

Cool, thanks for the suggestion. I guess I can devote sometime and check it out. Cheers!

Bob1016
02-18-2013, 12:45 AM
Lupullin (active ingredient in hops) is a proven sleep aid! Hopped mead is pretty good (dry hopped atleast, 0.5oz/gal is what I've liked).

ox45
02-18-2013, 12:11 PM
What about steeping some chamomile flowers either directly in the mead or into a tea that is added? I love my chamomile sleepy time tea and I think it has a lovely flavor, and even better with honey added to it!

akueck
02-18-2013, 12:28 PM
Chamomile is one of the traditional ingredients in some Belgian beers, so it works fine in alcohol. Hops, as mentioned, are great for sleepiness. Catnip will also make you sleepy. And the list goes on...

I'm pretty sure I've seen people use Sleepy Time in meads around here too, might be worth a search.

TheAlchemist
02-18-2013, 01:04 PM
Linden Blossom tea

bigdan110
02-18-2013, 01:11 PM
basswood/linden blossom honey

SilentJimbo
02-18-2013, 04:36 PM
Blue lotus flowers, perhaps?

Wolfie
02-18-2013, 05:40 PM
and lavender. there, thats quite the cocktail.

My personal advice is to steep the herbs directly in secondary in a grain bag or something. No need to boil up a tea separately, the alcohol will extract what you need just fine.

TheAlchemist
02-18-2013, 10:09 PM
basswood/linden blossom honey

I find Linden Blossom Honey doesn't help me get to sleep, but a teaspoon at bedtime can kickstart my dreamlife if I'm in "lag phase."

Marshmallow Blue
02-18-2013, 11:22 PM
Lupullin (active ingredient in hops) is a proven sleep aid! Hopped mead is pretty good (dry hopped atleast, 0.5oz/gal is what I've liked).

How hoppy does it come out in that amount? I'm sure the type of hops may change it a bit but is it closer to an ipa or something light? Or in between.

Since this is going pretty herbal, lavender honey has a nice aroma that I think would pair nicely with the chamomile.

If you have the availability, you can find a local loose leaf tea store, they are going to have quite a few options and definitely knowledge about different sleep aid like ingredients.

Bob1016
02-19-2013, 12:02 AM
My dry hop of choice is EKG, super fresh, and it comes out nice: some spice, fruitiness, and good overal floral hop quality. If I want citrusy I'd rather put a grapefruit in the fermenter than use American hops to dry hop, but this is a personal prefernce. If you fermented your mead with oak (most of mine are) then the EKGs blend really well with the oak and simultaneously bring out the floral quality of the honey. I imagine lavender honey would work great but I've never used it, palm is excellent because it has a slightly woody flavor, again with the oak and hops its great.
I want to try using year old hops next, to give some tannins (plus what ever comes from the short oak contact), but most of my old hops go into old mild (X ale) recipes.

akueck
02-19-2013, 07:29 PM
Dry hopping won't impart bitterness, just the flavor and aroma oils in the hops. So you'll usually get contributions like flowery, piney, citrusy, etc depending on the hop variety.

Beavis
02-20-2013, 10:25 AM
I find Linden Blossom Honey doesn't help me get to sleep, but a teaspoon at bedtime can kickstart my dreamlife if I'm in "lag phase."

Yes you are correct, a sponfull of honey at beadtime does wonders for me too. Better quality sleep.

Medsen Fey
02-20-2013, 10:57 AM
There are several other herbs that may help sleep:

http://dreamstudies.org/2010/07/13/5-most-effective-herbs-for-sleep-and-relaxation/

In addition, lime blossom is sometimes used.

Marc F.
02-20-2013, 11:58 AM
I use Valerian for calming nerves and sleeping.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valeriana_officinalis

Only problem is it has a VERY potent smell.

Meldin
02-20-2013, 03:23 PM
Valerian root is a great addition, but I definitely agree on the very potent smell. My wife can't get to sleep easily without a cup of Celestial Seasoning's Sleepytime Extra, which includes valerian root on top of their normal soothing ingredients, but it does stink (but hey, the cats love the smell!). On the other hand, sometimes the store doesn't have Sleepytime Extra, but they have Bedtime tea made by either Traditional Medicinals or Yogi (I can't remember which off the top of my head), which also has valerian root, but includes orange peel, licorice root, and marshmallow root, and they cover up the valerian taste and smell quite nicely. So if you want to go the valerian route, you may have an option if you throw in some of the other roots as well.

TheAlchemist
02-20-2013, 09:43 PM
The ancient benzodiazepine, diazepam, was given the trade name Valium in honor of Valerian.

Thanks, Medsen, for the awesome link.

Bob1016
02-20-2013, 10:49 PM
I can vouche for citrus blossoms in general. We used to make a tea out of them and it would put us to sleep easily, too bad we don't have those trees anymore (thank you Wilma).
I think a citrus blossom mead would be amazing, I wouldn't use OB honey though, talk about one dimensional!;)

Marc F.
02-21-2013, 07:17 PM
Sage and Anise together always helped to get me sleepy too.
I warm some milk and put both in.


About anise:
Pimpinella anisum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimpinella_anisum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimpinella_anisum#Medicinal)