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Chevette Girl
07-02-2013, 09:13 PM
Just saw this one come by on my facebook feed... an Ontario beekeeper has lost 600 hives, 37 million bees (http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/07/01/over-30-million-bees-found-dead-in-elmwood-canada/) ... "The loss comes after the planting of corn. Neonicotinoid pesticides are used to coat corn seed with air seeders. This results in having the pesticide dust blown into the air when planted."

Telkey
07-02-2013, 09:28 PM
Unreal. How much evidence does even a simpleton need in order to see how detrimental the effects of GMO's are, not only for the human populous, but for the animal kingdom in general!

Awful.

Vance G
07-02-2013, 09:44 PM
GMO has absolutely nothing to do with neonicitinoids. Both can be a problem. The neonicitinoids are orders of magnitude worse in this beekeepers opinion. Most of the fears surrounding GMO are way overblown.

skunkboy
07-02-2013, 09:52 PM
"There is no stopping them, Monsanto will soon be here. I, for one, welcome our new Monsanto Overlords...", to misquote Kent Brockman... :(

Chevette Girl
07-03-2013, 05:55 AM
Vance, I tend to agree with you... if a genetically modified organism prevents the need for pesticides in the first place, isn't it a step forward as long as we don't end up with Blinky the Three Eyed Fish?

kuri
07-03-2013, 06:03 AM
Chevette Girl, Blinky would make for a 50% reduction in waste when it comes to making fisheye soup, I'll have you know. :)

One potential problem with GMOs that reduce pesticide use is that the food plant itself will probably end up producing its own pesticide, and this could just as potentially harm bees. Or have other unknown consequences. Over the course of a few generations I'm sure we could weed out harmful GMOs, or at least get rid of the ones that cause the most obvious harms, but I for one don't really feel like being part of that experiment. Not that I really have a choice, of course.

TheAlchemist
07-03-2013, 06:19 AM
I think voluntary GMO labeling is a capital idea.

Marshmallow Blue
07-03-2013, 07:57 AM
Oh geese, and this isn't even counting the 25,000 dead bees found in an Oregon parking lot.

Chevette Girl
07-18-2013, 07:10 AM
So, my welder friend whose honey I'm currently turning into mead? His hives all died this year...

Marshmallow Blue
07-18-2013, 08:56 AM
pretty soon the new cheap / prison labor will be walking around a forest with a Q-tip manually pollinating things. Good job humanity!

Vance G
07-18-2013, 10:53 AM
These are rich mans problems. Only the rich with well fed children and income for the collective to confiscate---or those hooked up to feed on the confiscations have time for such. Things are much better now environmentally than any time in my early elderly existence. When is the last time the Cuyahoaga river caught fire?

A Reading of History by Leonard Nathan

The good guys lost the city first;
The bad guys should never have won that battle,
but did and turned the good guys out to starve
or butchered them as they had butchered cattle.

The bad guys lost the city next;
The worse guys swarmed the walls from land and sea
til heroes of evil parcelled out the widows.
O then how good those bad guys seemed to be!

The worse guys lost the city next;
Shaggy brutes slashed in from west and east
To drag them from their temples by the hair,
For worse guys were too gentle for this beast.

Yet who but this best assembled later,
Three to a corner, stricken by whispered fact
That powers of darkness hover off the coast
And nothing could prevent their being sacked.

The future plainly belongs to evil;
To good, the past; and for the present—well,
Good guys and bad guys mingle in the market;
Business was never better. Time will tell.

UKTony
07-19-2013, 10:51 AM
Not Sure if this petition is of any interest?

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/usa_save_the_bees/

We call on you to immediately support the Save America's Pollinators Act. Bees are dying off in the millions, and we rely on them for 1/3rd of all our food. If you act urgently with precaution now to protect them from bee-toxic neonicotinoid pesticides, we could save bees from extinction.

Chevette Girl
07-19-2013, 10:58 AM
Thanks for posting that, I thought I'd already signed it but I guess I hadn't!

Chevette Girl
07-20-2013, 10:45 AM
Finally getting cought up in my cartoons and found the Knight Life (http://www.gocomics.com/theknightlife/2013/07/01) did a week on bees...

mannye
07-21-2013, 12:45 AM
One more sig on that petition... No bees=no honey.

All I can think of is Charlton Heston and Edward G. Robinson eating 500 dollar strawberries.

joemirando
07-21-2013, 03:03 PM
One more sig on that petition... No bees=no honey.

All I can think of is Charlton Heston and Edward G. Robinson eating 500 dollar strawberries.
Heh heh, I saw a comedian on television the other day who was talking about the high cost of 'organic' foods...

"Six dollars for a half pint of strawberries? For six bucks you'd better show me a picture of these strawberries being picked by WHITE guys! I wanna see Mitt Romney bending over to get 'em!"

Chuckling again at the thought... AND the mental picture.


Joe

TheAlchemist
07-22-2013, 12:38 PM
http://org.credoaction.com/petitions/tell-congress-stop-the-pesticide-that-is-killing-bees?akid=8420.6789659.yi8a2o&rd=1&t=2

another petition

joemirando
07-23-2013, 09:24 PM
Not actually dealing with bee LOSSES, or Colony Collapse, but interesting nonetheless.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2013/07/23/well-ill-bee-bees-see-uv/


Joe

Midnight Sun
07-23-2013, 10:49 PM
Off topic post #2:

Those illustrations in the video are pretty accurate. For actual images, Bjørn Rørslett has extensively photographed flowers in UV and has the largest collection that I am aware of.

Arnica flower: here. (http://www.naturfotograf.com/UV_ARNI_ANG.html)
Lowly dandelion flower: here. (http://www.naturfotograf.com/UV_TARA_VUL.html#top)
Catalog here. (http://www.naturfotograf.com/UV_flowers_list.html)

The rest of Rørslett 's site is worthy of investigation if you are interested in photography that is off the beaten path.

rmccask
07-25-2013, 08:39 PM
I just saw this on twitter. http://qz.com/107970/scientists-discover-whats-killing-the-bees-and-its-worse-than-you-thought/ >:(

TheAlchemist
07-25-2013, 09:46 PM
It makes my heart ache.

The small family owned biodiverse community supported organic farms are thankfully still raising healthy bees.