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Welshie
04-14-2014, 10:53 AM
Well, way back in January;D when I was still new to this hobby, I wanted to make a six gallon batch of show mead. Being a complete noob, I bought blended honey(sourced from the USA, Brazil, and Argentina) in three 5 lbs. jugs at Wal-Mart. Excited with this new endevour, I set forth to brew up my first batch of mead. After primary fermentation, I noticed my dark amber must had turned into a cloudy, pale yellow mix. It didn't look at all like the pics in my books. I decided to stick with it and see where it takes me. I have let it sit for 3 months now(I know, still new!) and even tried some Quick Kleer and nothing. Still a cloudy pale yellow liquid. Now onto the point of this thread. Is this the dangers we could run into by using "bad" honey. Are there just too many additives and fillers in this bulk supermarket style honey? Believe me, as I grow in this hobby and my knowledge increases, I see the error of my ways. I now know that honey should be, in my humble opinion, one source(clover, OB, buckwheat, etc.) and not a mix of honey from who knows where. Has anyone seen this before? Is it the honey or my technique? I've since done numerous batches of 1,2,and 3 gallons and have not run into this issue. Of course, my honey has been of a higher quality as well. This seems to be the only thing I can nail down as being the culprit.

Sorry, this was made using Ken Schramm's method for semi-sweet mead as printed in his book. Water, honey, and yeast. That's all.

GntlKnigt1
04-14-2014, 11:43 AM
So, it is cloudy? Maybe try some super kleer on it. How does it taste?

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Riverat
04-14-2014, 12:47 PM
Ditto on GK's point and from a mead standpoint, January isn't really "way back"

Medsen Fey
04-14-2014, 03:36 PM
Maybe you should provide recipe details. Has this batch completed fermentation? It is normal for it to become light and cloudy during fermentation and to become clear and darker as the yeast settle.

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Honeyhog
04-14-2014, 09:22 PM
I had a nectarine melomel that for whatever reason took 5 months to clear. Let it sit. Oops, I just checked and it was a Grandma's Liquid Apple Pie that took 5 months.

Welshie
04-15-2014, 09:35 AM
No real secret to the recipe: 15 lbs honey, Lalvin yeast, and spring water to make up to 6 gallons.

mistakenmead
04-15-2014, 10:53 AM
patients my friend. Have you tasted it yet? if it has an alcohol taste then it is probably just taking its sweet time. Put it away for another 3 months and check it then. In the mean time brew up a few more batches if you get anxious.

Medsen Fey
04-15-2014, 11:25 AM
Fermentations without nutrients can continue slowly for a year and will remain cloudy during most of that time. Where is your gravity and is it still slowly dropping?

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GntlKnigt1
04-15-2014, 12:23 PM
Welshie, was this the Medium Show Mead on ppage 163-4?

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WVMJack
04-15-2014, 07:11 PM
Its walmart honey, dump it out and find a beekeepers group near you to find some real raw honey, unfiltered, unprocessed and local as you can get. WVMJ

Medsen Fey
04-15-2014, 08:53 PM
Its walmart honey, dump it out and find a beekeepers group near you to find some real raw honey, unfiltered, unprocessed and local as you can get. WVMJ

I wouldn't be too quick to toss it.
Even Walmart honey can make a good base that you can use for a melomel, or metheglyn. At worst it makes good stock for topping up other batches.

Welshie
04-15-2014, 09:04 PM
Actually, GK I used the recipe on page 30.

Actually, I followed Medsen's path. I put them in 1 gallon carboys and added various types of fruit. Made 3 melomels out of them. Funny thing is that 3 days after adding fruit, everything dropped to the bottom and they are crystal clear.

WVMJack, took your path as well and started a new batch of show mead with quality honey.

So, in a way, I took all of your advice!
Thanks.

SilentJimbo
04-15-2014, 09:04 PM
At worst it makes good stock for topping up other batches.
Or as a basis to compare future batches made with better honey to.

Welshie
04-15-2014, 09:16 PM
I did save one bottle of extra for later comparisons. Thanks.