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mannye
11-26-2014, 12:43 PM
When I see this it means THEY have won.

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EJM3
11-26-2014, 07:44 PM
Holy MFG, that looks atrocious!!! They've turned Guinness in Bud Water, I mean light!

mannye
11-27-2014, 11:18 AM
Nevertheless I will probably try it later on in December. I have need of a "soda beer" for the crazy hot and humid summers and Corona is slowly becoming water as the years go on. I guess hops are getting expensive down south.


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Stasis
11-27-2014, 11:49 AM
Using American hops automatically means the beer will taste thin?

clone63
11-27-2014, 12:04 PM
Nevertheless I will probably try it later on in December. I have need of a "soda beer" for the crazy hot and humid summers and Corona is slowly becoming water as the years go on. I guess hops are getting expensive down south.

You indicate it's a fatal loss, but then want to buy it? There would be very similar, probably better offerings in the "Light/Pale" category from a craft brewery at a comparable cost, or if you could tolerate Corona in the first place just get whatever is cheapest. Guaranteed to be watery.

GntlKnigt1
11-27-2014, 12:34 PM
I recently had some Guiness "Original" that i have never seen in the USA. Beeradvocate folks had rated it low, but i thought it was a great stout ! Might be the american Bud Light drinkers rating it.

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mannye
11-27-2014, 01:17 PM
Let's not forget that American lagers which we love to deride as pisswater are very popular in the UK.

The kids over there think it's "cool" to drink them.

And yes. I will try it because although I am appalled at the blatant marketing bullshit that made it possible, Guinness makes a damn good stout and they will probably make a "soda beer" (alcopop?) that's better than the others. So yeah. I will drink it while the 4 horsemen ride up.

I can't stand slamming something just to slam it without trying it.


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skunkboy
11-27-2014, 07:02 PM
Eh, I'll stick with other better more interesting stuff like Founder's All Day IPA...

mannye
11-27-2014, 07:16 PM
I'm with you. But come talk to me after you've had two "interesting" IPAs in 98F weather. You too will be gazing longingly at the guys chugging refreshing ice cold Coronas.

Real beer isn't "refreshing" in the way a Heineken Light or a Corona can be. Real beer is complex and tasty and FILLING.

AND that takes me back to the original post. To see Guinness wading into this shallow "kid stuff" territory makes me worry. It means that they have decided money is more important than making the best beer.

This beer is the Cadillac Cimarron of Guinness. It took Cadillac 30 years to recover from the Cimarron.

I hope when I try it it doesn't remind me of an overpriced Chevy.


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EJM3
11-27-2014, 10:06 PM
That is what I worry about if I can find a single of it someplace. If I buy a six and hate it then the only one to drink it is me.

Chevette Girl
11-27-2014, 10:57 PM
Let's not forget that American lagers which we love to deride as pisswater are very popular in the UK.

The kids over there think it's "cool" to drink them.

....and the kids over there like their beers warm, if the hype can be believed. Hee's your grain of salt <thud> ;D

But really, it's all individual taste. I don't like a lot of popular wines or beers, a lot of people don't like what I consider to be my best creations, but there are a few extremely common things I do rather have a taste for (like Labatt's Blue and the cheapest-ass white wine kit my brew store sells). Can't explain or sometimes even predict taste, even if one loathes the marketing.

mannye
11-28-2014, 09:45 AM
Yeah. My loathing isn't directed at the actual product but at the marketing machine that produces it.

It seems that nothing is sacred anymore but then again I'm not looking at the books at the Guinness brewery.

I'm not sitting in the meeting where the SVP of marketing is explaining how this light lager will steer my domestic demographic away from these American beers and back to the home brand. I can see the logic and guess the rest.

It just pains me that a brand has to resort to this tawdry behavior which in the end dilutes (pun) it.


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GntlKnigt1
11-28-2014, 09:59 AM
Try Dragons Milk, if you can find it. From New Holland Brewing in MI. A stout that I rated 5 out of 5 on beeradvocate

ScottBehrens
11-28-2014, 11:35 AM
Founder's All Day IPA
That's actually a misnomer, as I continue to discover I cannot drink it all day, or all night for that matter. But its still great.

EJM3
11-29-2014, 05:32 PM
I have more or less completely left the beer world behind and I am happily sampling all the wonderful ciders, perries, the occasional mead and other non-beer/wine/alcopop drinks. I am in the "Apple Capital" so why not just sit back and enjoy all the local flavors that come in all the time. Our liquor store owner is really good about bringing in all kinds of different tipples of all sorts. One of my current favorites is a oak barrel aged apple cider, another is black currant cider, ginger cider, over 20 kinds of cider, perry, etc..

Unfortunately she is only able to get Sky River Mead. It's extremely pale, light bodied, super subtle honey flavor at $17.50 a 750ml bottle. The dry is Sahara like, the medium is still dry to me, and the sweet is subtly sweet/dry. I'm not going to review them here though, just the broad perceptions by me. Also it's 10.5% ABV and not the 14% to ~18% I have at home.

When it comes to drinking something I want flavors, sometimes subtle like my green tea, but over do it and it's horridly tannic, astringent and bitter.

I have to say that for almost $20.00 for 750ml I can make it cheaper at home if I can get a sweet deal on honey (pun intended). And it's to my liking as well!

joemirando
11-29-2014, 07:34 PM
I have more or less completely left the beer world behind and I am happily sampling all the wonderful ciders, perries, the occasional mead and other non-beer/wine/alcopop drinks. I am in the "Apple Capital" so why not just sit back and enjoy all the local flavors that come in all the time. Our liquor store owner is really good about bringing in all kinds of different tipples of all sorts. One of my current favorites is a oak barrel aged apple cider, another is black currant cider, ginger cider, over 20 kinds of cider, perry, etc..

Unfortunately she is only able to get Sky River Mead. It's extremely pale, light bodied, super subtle honey flavor at $17.50 a 750ml bottle. The dry is Sahara like, the medium is still dry to me, and the sweet is subtly sweet/dry. I'm not going to review them here though, just the broad perceptions by me. Also it's 10.5% ABV and not the 14% to ~18% I have at home.

When it comes to drinking something I want flavors, sometimes subtle like my green tea, but over do it and it's horridly tannic, astringent and bitter.

I have to say that for almost $20.00 for 750ml I can make it cheaper at home if I can get a sweet deal on honey (pun intended). And it's to my liking as well!

Hell, at $17.50/750ml, you could pay top dollar for honey and still save money... even if you have to buy the bottle to put it in. <G>

skunkboy
11-29-2014, 10:06 PM
Dragon's milk is very nice, but two bottles of that will do it for most people... :)