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Robert Blees
03-21-2016, 01:43 AM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160321/3426616279c1e298f194f33862303aa3.jpg ok first off I'm making a strawberry kiwi melomel ! Started with 18 pounds of wildflower honey from California
S.g 1.120 is now at .998 after two weeks . About 15.7 %abv I added sorbistat k and potassium metabisulfite Somewhat pasteurized my fruit and racked onto fruit totaling 7 gallons so........
Air lock activity has picked up and foaming on fruit cap I am worried is this normal ?
Thanks Robert from riverside ca


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Masbustelo
03-21-2016, 06:21 AM
As "dirty" as your must looks with yeast and fruit etc. it looks like quite possibly you have such an active environment that the potassium additives were insufficient to stun the yeast into submission. With lots of fruit and nutrition your yeast maybe able to go to 18% alcohol. When you added the fruit it dropped your ABV and the fermentation has probably restarted.

Maylar
03-21-2016, 11:28 AM
K-Sorbate will not stop an active fermentation, it just inhibits yeast growth. With a healthy colony of a few billion yeast cells in there - yep, it'll keep fermenting.

Robert Blees
03-22-2016, 03:44 AM
Thank you masbustelo.


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Robert Blees
03-22-2016, 09:42 PM
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Squatchy
03-22-2016, 10:03 PM
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Where did y9ou get that carboy? I gotta have some of those? It's hard to say from the pics. Is that also a 3?

Robert Blees
03-23-2016, 12:08 AM
The bottle on the right was 17.99 from marshals in the home decor section !!! It's 7 gallons and the one behind it ,is the standard beer store 6 gallon jug


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Robert Blees
03-23-2016, 12:11 AM
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Robert Blees
03-23-2016, 12:15 AM
https://vimeo.com/160046830this was my first batch back in January this shit makes me smile


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Robert Blees
03-24-2016, 01:32 AM
Fruit cap , is getting smaller every day ! Will the fruit eventually fall out of suspension ? http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160324/06f69619ebfa95961a6db778c4731dba.jpg


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Mazer828
03-24-2016, 11:26 AM
Some will, some will not. Don't wait for it. Fruit can begin to add vegetal character to your mead if left in there more than a couple of weeks. So I'd start thinking about racking if you're close to that or beyond.

Doesn't look like you have any kind of mesh in there to separate, and siphoning with fruit pulp is an exercise in pure frustration. Do you have a plan for getting the fruit out?

Robert Blees
03-24-2016, 04:20 PM
Thanks for the reply as always ! I'm in riverside ca and was introduced to mead as a drunken evening was in full swing , but only in conversation. My first taste was my own blackberry melomel from more beer.com The kit had two cans of purée from vinters harvest
This is my second batch and I wanted to add fresh fruit so 12 pounds of strawberrys and a few pounds of kiwi was found at a local fruit stand. Now I wish I had used a bag to contain the pulp .and pouring it out is a no no I'm sure ,with introduction of oxygen after primary . I have a filter to use. Maybe a mesh around end of racking cane?


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Mazer828
03-24-2016, 05:56 PM
I'm in Rancho Cucamonga, but just for the evening! Ha.

Hearkening back to my early mead days, I've done both. Mostly out of paranoia. Racking with mesh over the cane tip is frustrating because you have to pause frequently to clear the mesh so fluid will flow again, then restart the siphon...it makes you want to nibble on a gun barrel.

In your situation, I would pour. I would set up a clean sanitary bucket (a bottling bucket with a spigot is best), and get a friend who can help hold the bucket at an angle so you can pour down the inside of the bucket, and minimize splashing. Then I would get the biggest funnel you can find (I got mine from the auto parts store, oil change funnel), put a wire mesh basket/strainer in the funnel, and if you like, layer that with one or two ply of cheese cloth. Then slowly pour your mead through the cheese cloth, strainer and funnel, into the bucket. It takes several hands to accomplish, but when you're done (a) you'll like the result and (b) you'll never want to do it again! Lol.

Then of course you can hook a clear clean hose to your spigot and drain your mead quietly back into your carboy to clear.

Cheers and good luck!

Robert Blees
03-25-2016, 04:47 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160325/60ea00bc708cee137a1276b9a8b60147.jpgafter five days the color is still a murky brown in the jug and a slight orangish red in the wine thief Still hads bubbles rising after 5 days on the berries and the strawberries are almost all chewed up.
Thinking about the pouring idea and filtering I don't want to lose a drop of fluid so if I have to rack 4 more times I will until this all drops out or is filtered out


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Robert Blees
03-25-2016, 04:50 PM
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Robert Blees
03-26-2016, 09:12 PM
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Robert Blees
03-26-2016, 09:14 PM
A few pieces of pulp made it thru into the third racking How will that work out over the next month
Oh and I tested ph at 3.0 is that ok


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Robert Blees
03-27-2016, 01:07 AM
Mead making is magnificent

Mazer828
03-27-2016, 01:32 AM
3.0 seems very low. How does it taste? Is it still fermenting? What's the gravity?

Robert Blees
03-27-2016, 03:18 AM
It's dry. Fermentation is over hint of strawberry but as a melomel its ditched the traditional mead flavor


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Robert Blees
03-27-2016, 03:19 AM
.998


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Robert Blees
03-27-2016, 03:19 AM
Oh relates to what flavor profile?


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Mazer828
03-27-2016, 10:39 AM
So as long as the flavor is ok, no off qualities, not too tart/acidic etc., I don't see how your final pH is too low. Typically if the pH were that low during ferment you might have expected your yeast to show some signs of stress, but you're beyond that now so no worries that I can think of. Unless low pH creates some sort of stability issue in storage, but I can't imagine that being the case either; usually food products with low pH have better shelf life.

IMHO, if you like the flavor, now it's all about stabilizing and clearing so you can bottle.

One T
03-27-2016, 01:08 PM
While I think the Marshal's carboy is perfectly fine for a traditional mead, I would not use it when doing fruit additions. Fruit caps tend to hold in heat and co2 which can stress the yeast. Many mead makers, myself included, "punch down" the cap daily to alleviate this issue. With the narrowing at the top, your fruit cap will be much thicker than in a traditional carboy or bucket which will compound this problem. JMO.

Robert Blees
03-28-2016, 12:29 PM
Thank u for the info. It all is appreciated. ...... I stirred up fruit cap daily three times. I would of never thought about the concentration.
In other news I used sparkleoid and it cleared up the haze but upon closer inspection with a flashlight I see tiny particles still floating ? Maybe pulp from the fruit. But. Do u guys thing a few month it will settle out of shouldn't filter then bulk age. Before bottling ?
So I drank some yesterday at my families Easter brunch lol. I took the last bit of. Mead that was on the lees , poured it into a gallon jug , cold crashed it. So it would separate more then I added some sugar to a bottle and put in the freezer ! If this "dregs" was great I imagine that the rest of the mead is gonna be fantastic. . I mean my aunt was doing backflips because it was so good I did make sure to get no lees in the test bottle


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Robert Blees
03-28-2016, 01:22 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160328/d0ac61a0ebf3fb742ad2034aa1fda4ab.jpgthis is what I woke up to after adding spark loid. And peptic enzyme
It looked really cloudy and almost nasty for its while fruit infusion


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Robert Blees
03-28-2016, 01:23 PM
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Robert Blees
03-28-2016, 02:22 PM
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Robert Blees
03-28-2016, 09:22 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160329/e35c7131bae7b10e1baf5d08d1af07c2.jpghas cleared a lot but I held up a flashlight and could see more pulp or clumps that haven't fallen is this normal and should I swirl it again or filter I have a 1 micron filter to use would u think it could hand this last haze http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160329/ca3ce4d93ff833cc7ad7d390d929e897.jpg


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Robert Blees
03-28-2016, 09:23 PM
Filter and bulk age ?!!!


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Robert Blees
03-29-2016, 09:07 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160330/4903f5c4bb862655eda291ff7ddc29c7.jpgwas able to filter the orange blossom vanilla bean today I'm so happy with the results can't wait to use on the melomel


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Robert Blees
03-29-2016, 09:07 PM
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Robert Blees
04-02-2016, 02:41 AM
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Robert Blees
04-24-2016, 04:22 PM
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skunkboy
04-24-2016, 04:33 PM
Nice pictures :)

Interesting selection of caboys...