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ancjr
03-24-2005, 10:38 AM
My local supplier doesn't have Fermax, but they do carry the Carlson Yeast Energizer. Is this an ok substitute for the Fermax specified in Joe's three week mead ... or should i order Fermax from one of the online suppliers?

GntlKnght
03-24-2005, 07:06 PM
I use Fermax which contains:
diammonium phosphate, dipotassium phosphate, magnesium sulfate, autolyzed yeast.

According to what I have found, LD Carlson contains:
food-grade urea and diammonium phosphate

While I am sure the Carlson product will not hurt anything, I believe the Fermax would be the more complete choice. But I have never used anything but Fermax.

Jmattioli
03-24-2005, 10:15 PM
Order the Fermax. My special recipes are critical. To make it drinkable in a short time, I try to use the minimum nutrients required and a different one might leave a taste without some aging.
Joe

kace069
03-25-2005, 03:27 AM
What A great topic I just made mead 2 weeks ago and added both and nutrient.
3tsp nutrient

Lagerman64
04-04-2005, 03:25 PM
What about Lavlin Fermaid K ? I haven't used either, just curious.

Oskaar
04-04-2005, 03:47 PM
Fermaid K is a great product, I've used it several times and like the results. When paired with Go-Ferm used to rehydrate your yeast, the batches take off like a rocket.

Cheers,

Oskaar

Brewbear
06-18-2005, 01:05 AM
What about YEASTEX from www.steinfillers. com ?

It contains : vitamins including biotin, folic acid, riboflavin, thiamine. Minerals: calcium, magnesium, manganese, potassium, zinc and phosphate. Ammonium salts, amino acids, proteins and proteolipids.

According to the label, " Improves fermentation, shortens lag time,and helps acieve lower final gravity and reduces diacetyl". Use: 1/2 teaspoon per 5 gal. of beer, wine may require more, up to 1/2 tsp/gal.
Price is $3.95/4oz

Just wondering
Ted

WRATHWILDE
06-30-2005, 04:57 AM
Looking for a quick fermentation? What does yeast need to perform its best? Lalvin should know... Look no further than re-hydrating with GoFerm and supplementing with Fermaid K and DAP as per instruction.

http://consumer.lallemand.com/danstar-lalvin/fermaidwine.html

http://consumer.lallemand.com/danstar-lalvin/InFerment/Clayton_Hints.html

http://consumer.lallemand.com/danstar-lalvin/winefaq.html#specifics

Quote from Clayton "The best form of usable nitrogen seems to be a combination of di-ammonium phosphate (DAP) and yeast extract. The practice of adding nitrogen is very helpful, as it has no negative effects."

A wealth of useful information on their site and a great place to visit for learning more about your favorite Lalvin Yeasts.

Wrathwilde

byathread
06-30-2005, 03:38 PM
On the "au naturale" front, I've started to experiment with a combo of Fermaid 2133 (autolyzed yeast extract) and yeast hulls on a tip from Clayton Cone. It seems to work just as well as Fermaid K for me so far.

I'd love to conduct some side by side tests using various "natural" nutrients (raisins or other dried fruit, bee pollen, yeast hulls, and combinations thereof) vs. the big boys. However, I simply don't have the space now. :(