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Jmattioli
07-02-2005, 02:36 PM
Makin mead .... Part of the Stash...and Taking my daily allowance of CW sweet Mead.
What a great way to spend the holidays...
Cheers,
Joe (with the beard gone)


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Norskersword
07-02-2005, 06:10 PM
Cool pictures, Joe! How long did it take for those meads on the table to clear? What kind are they? Cool barrel, too!

Someday I know I will have a setup very similar. But that will be years from now.

Lagerman64
07-02-2005, 09:30 PM
Most impressive Joe. I am humbled ;D (for now ;)). "Ninkasi watches her faithful."

Jmattioli
07-02-2005, 09:47 PM
Cool pictures, Joe! How long did it take for those meads on the table to clear? What kind are they? Cool barrel, too!

Someday I know I will have a setup very similar. But that will be years from now.


Well, in process there is (2) 3 gallon English meads using Buckwheat and Clover. Its an experiment using 71B and K1V yeast and (1) 1 Gallon English Mead experiment with D47. There is also (2) 1 gallon experiments of Clover Showmead made with Cotes de Blancs with 1 using tannin and 1 without. The barrel is a 55 gallon Oak from a Seagrams distillery in Cincinnati and houses my 3 week CW staright Mead for an everyday mead and visitors.

Clearing using tannin from the start on most batches proiduces a clear mead within a month. Some of the slower yeasts I use take longer.

Joe

WRATHWILDE
07-03-2005, 02:28 AM
The barrel is a 55 gallon Oak from a Seagrams distillery in Cincinnati and houses my 3 week CW staright Mead for an everyday mead and visitors.
Joe


Do you draw samples directly from the tap throughout the meads life span? If so... wouldn't the air introduced affect the mead?

Wrathwilde

Jmattioli
07-03-2005, 12:11 PM
The barrel is a 55 gallon Oak from a Seagrams distillery in Cincinnati and houses my 3 week CW staright Mead for an everyday mead and visitors.
Joe


Do you draw samples directly from the tap throughout the meads life span? If so... wouldn't the air introduced affect the mead?

Wrathwilde


Yes, but the Oak Barrel is just for looks. I cut a secret door in the back and installed a CO2 cannister and stainless tank. CO2 replaces the Mead as I drink it. Now you know the rest of the story .... and my secret.

There are also colaspable bladders one can buy instead of the CO2 setup but I opted for Corney kegs and a CO2 tank for convenience.

Joe

Norskersword
07-03-2005, 09:52 PM
That's cheating, Joe! I bet you have all you're guests fooled. ;D

My girlfriend says you look better with the beard shaved and that you should update you're avater.

Norskersword
07-03-2005, 10:17 PM
Hey Joe, do you think this one will get any clearer? I used 1/2 tsp tannin in this also.

I used a very dark wildflower honey. The flash makes it look different but right now it looks like very dark water. It's tasting great though!

This is a two month old mead and it has looked like this for a month now and has stopped producing sediment. I didn't think color could effect clearity but now I think it does. The oak chips seem to have made it darker. I'm just wondering if I should plan on bottling soon. I was going to give it a few more weeks for good measure to make sure it wasn't producing any more sediment.


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Jmattioli
07-04-2005, 09:52 AM
Jeff,
When its that dark you can shine a light through it to see if its clear. I suspect it is done and clear.
Joe

byathread
07-04-2005, 11:22 AM
Great setup Joe! Thanks for sharing. And we won't tell your secret ;)





My girlfriend says you look better with the beard shaved and that you should update you're avater.


PS - Real mazers wear beards!!

irishoneme
07-04-2005, 02:16 PM
Great setup, Joe! I have yet to use tannins and was wondering how you introduce them to clear the mead? I currently have a strawberry,raspberry,blackberry concoction that looks like a smoothie after two rackings.

Jmattioli
07-04-2005, 03:21 PM
Great setup, Joe! I have yet to use tannins and was wondering how you introduce them to clear the mead? I currently have a strawberry,raspberry,blackberry concoction that looks like a smoothie after two rackings.


I have been, for the past 2 years, using 1/2t per gallon as a standard up front ingredient for clearing and for the character it gives. (dissolved in water and added before pitching yeast) I haven't found that amount to contribute anything but positive effects on the mead.

Joe

Dan McFeeley
07-04-2005, 03:44 PM
PS - Real mazers wear beards!!


Hmmm . . . Has anyone told Vickie this? ;D ;D ;D

Mynx
07-04-2005, 05:12 PM
Or me for that matter!

OR Miriam!

Hmmn, I could get into a secondary hobby, making beards for female mazers.

Anyone else reminded of The Life of Brian? ;)

WRATHWILDE
07-04-2005, 11:43 PM
How much for the gourd? ;)

Wrathwilde

Oskaar
07-05-2005, 12:06 AM
"Blessed are the cheesemakers"

Cheers,

Oskaar

Miriam
07-05-2005, 02:20 AM
Mynx, who needs a beard?! Leave that to the guys! Our meads are charged with female energy much needed for ying/yang balance in the brewing world.

And Joe, thanks for sharing your wisdom regarding tannins and clearing. I made a note of that.

Miriam

toolboxdiver
07-05-2005, 07:08 AM
Just watched that last week...lol...come on Brian lets go to the stoning

Mynx
07-05-2005, 11:30 AM
Mynx, who needs a beard?! Leave that to the guys! Our meads are charged with female energy much needed for ying/yang balance in the brewing world.



Yeah! That's it! Haha, to be fair, I always stir my must/wort clockwise, so it's probably more true than I think ;)

byathread
07-05-2005, 06:19 PM
Mynx, who needs a beard?! Leave that to the guys! Our meads are charged with female energy much needed for ying/yang balance in the brewing world.


:D My hat is off to you ladies. Its about time you reclaim your status as brewsters, as brewing in all its myriad forms has traditionally been the art of women. And lets not forget about the other noble, vital arts once almost entirely the pursuit of women: doctor/healer/herbalist, agriculturalist, integral roles in politics and religion, etc, etc.

Kinda makes you wonder what the hell us men were doing (besides warfare, hunting, and enjoying the products of a woman's labor)!

byathread
07-05-2005, 07:13 PM
Yeah! That's it! Haha, to be fair, I always stir my must/wort clockwise, so it's probably more true than I think ;)


Hmmm. I never thought about it until you mentioned this but I almost always stir counter-clockwise. Is this supposed to be a masculine/feminine thing? I never heard that. Weird.

Kirk

Mynx
07-05-2005, 10:44 PM
Clockwise (or deosil) is for positivity and good vibrations etc. Doing something in a clockwise manner brings good into it.

Counterclockwise (or widdershins) is for negativity or the removing of badness/evil. So doing something counterclockwise would help in removing impurities.

So either way works for mead really ;)

jab
07-05-2005, 11:04 PM
You are all individuals...you are all different!

I'm not.

Oskaar
07-06-2005, 12:18 AM
What if you're south of the equator?

Oskaar

Mynx
07-06-2005, 12:30 AM
I think the directions stay the same, meaning-wise. Course when you talk about the seaons, it's a WHOLE other story ;)

Brewbear
07-06-2005, 01:05 AM
So...if you stir first clockwise and then counter, and then clock, and then counter....you're covered?
Just making sure :-\ I get bored stirring one way only, besides, it helps airate the must...me thinks :-[

Ted

Miriam
07-06-2005, 02:15 AM
Jeepers...what if you take the kitchen mixer and use that to stir the must? Cosmic chaos in the carboy?! Or contrariwise, harmonics in the hooch? The mind reels at the possibilities...

Miriam
getting goofy :D

Mynx
07-06-2005, 02:23 AM
I think kitchen mixers are exempt ;)

Miriam
07-06-2005, 02:44 AM
:D My hat is off to you ladies. Its about time you reclaim your status as brewsters, as brewing in all its myriad forms has traditionally been the art of women. And lets not forget about the other noble, vital arts once almost entirely the pursuit of women: doctor/healer/herbalist, agriculturalist, integral roles in politics and religion, etc, etc.

Kinda makes you wonder what the hell us men were doing (besides warfare, hunting, and enjoying the products of a woman's labor)!


Ah well, surely the mystery of the male/female principle is one of the greatest there is. And actually the New Moon Mead thread caught my eye especially I think because of the connection between the moon and women; just an idea I have. But yes, it would be great to hear of more women brewers. Brewstresses? Oh no, let's not start that again ::) (I still haven't figured out what the feminine of "mazer" should be.)

However, the modern renaissance of mead-making has its female stars, among whom of course is Vicky - then there are Cindy Renfrow, Pamela Spence, who created the American Mead Association, and the late Susanne Price, also a leader in the revival of modern meadmaking. I'm sure there are more that I haven't read of.

Personally, I am the only woman I know of here that home-brews on a regular basis. There is a woman enologist who has established a commercial winery, and she is regarded with respect, but there is only one.

Miriam

Mynx
07-06-2005, 11:28 AM
I get that alot too Miriam. I'm one of few women on my brewing sites and newsgroups, and in my personal life, I always seem to get mildly odd/shocked looks when I tell people I brew. And then when mead gets mentioned, I usually have to explain what it IS first, heheh.

Miriam
07-06-2005, 01:18 PM
Interesting to hear that, Mynx. Here, people don't exactly look shocked, but either intrigued or mystified. That is, after they've finished insisting that what I do is add vodka to fruit. Not too many understand that good wine can be made from scratch at home, even in an apartment (or could care less). Then the question most asked is, "So who's going to drink all that wine?" I wonder if people would ask that were I a man. Depending on if the person is friendly or just a bore, I explain that my family and close friends handily help me dispose of it, or I'll just shrug and say,

"Well, me, obviously." ;D

Miriam

Mynx
07-06-2005, 01:24 PM
Haha, my friends/acquaintences dont even ask who'll drink it all. They know that my boy and I can finish it off nicely. Of course I'm usually kind enough to offer it to the friends too ;)

After they taste it the questions I get are more along the lines of "... so how do you do this anyhow?" and "When are you making more?" ;)

Brewbear
07-06-2005, 08:12 PM
Brewstesses......say that really fast after a couple of glasses of mead ;D
Never mind the name, the cool thing is that you ladies brew ;) Any name you'd choose for yourselves ( consider One of a Kind Lady Brewer) the impotrant thing is that you do it, and better yet, you are good at it!
Keep on brewing....and if you know a cute, single brewstress, let me know :-\

Ted

Miriam
07-07-2005, 01:13 AM
Ted,

Funny, I was just thinking that on the brewing forums I belong to, there are very few unattached women - if there are, they lurk. I don't have anything concrete to add, but have a few theories about that. At any rate, if I come across a nice brewstress, er, bewstross, - oh dammit - lady brewer for you, I'll let you know ASAP. :D

Miriam

Brewbear
07-07-2005, 01:16 AM
Thanks Miriam,
Do you think that people that brew together, are happy together?
HMMMmmm!! Lurking you say...Do you hear the music from Jaws in the background?

Ted

byathread
07-07-2005, 12:01 PM
You know the old adage: "those who brew together, stay together!"

maybe not so old... ;D

One thing's for sure brewstresses are in demand! At least for the single brewers.

Mynx
07-07-2005, 12:45 PM
I personally go by Beer Wench, but Brewmistress works as well ;)

Miriam
07-07-2005, 12:51 PM
Yes, Brewmistress is easier to say than brewstress and has a certain resonance as well. :D

Miriam

webmaster
07-07-2005, 03:30 PM
It do at that.

I've a book that you might find very interesting (Here on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0195126505/gotmethelarge-20/103-3492989-4174233?creative=327641&camp=14573&link_code=as1) called "Ale, Beer, and Brewsters in England: Women's Work in a Changing World. 1300-1600," was published by Oxford University Press. It details how the ale trade in the medieval to renaissance period of central Europe was in the hands of womenfolk, and slowly became the pervue of the men. It was an interesting read.

Here's the first paragraph of the description: "Women brewed and sold most of the ale drunk in medieval England, but after 1350, men slowly took over the trade. By 1600, most brewers in London--as well as in many towns and villages--were male, not female. Ale, Beer, and Brewsters in England investigates this transition, asking how, when, and why brewing ceased to be a women's trade and became a trade of men."

Vicky

Mynx
07-07-2005, 04:07 PM
Thanks for the reccomendation Vicky! I'll have to see if that's at my library

briankettering
07-07-2005, 08:51 PM
I just got this book for my library!

It is extremely useful, along with Beer in the Middle Ages and the Renaissance by Richard W. Unger (University of Pennsylvania Press, 2004; ISBN 0812237951), in describing how brewing expanded from a household activity to a major commercial industry.

Brian K

Miriam
07-08-2005, 12:07 AM
Well, another couple of books on the Amazon shopping cart. The diary of Martha Ballard, a midwife living and active at around the time of the American Revolution, notes that one of the myriad household chores that women routinely undertook was the brewing of beer. Wine, too, but less than beer.

Miriam

Pewter_of_Deodar
07-11-2005, 01:53 PM
"Women brewed and sold most of the ale drunk in medieval England, but after 1350, men slowly took over the trade. By 1600, most brewers in London--as well as in many towns and villages--were male, not female. Ale, Beer, and Brewsters in England investigates this transition, asking how, when, and why brewing ceased to be a women's trade and became a trade of men."

Not to be sexist or anything, but that must be why today's stuff is so much better...

*looks for a place to hide while dodging thrown objects* ;D

(can you tell I am a bit rowdy after just returning from a week's vacation in the mountains?)

Brewbear
07-12-2005, 01:30 AM
I believe a test is in order!
Ladies vs. Gents., we'll see who's mead is better ;D
If nothing else, we'll get to meet and swap "war" stories.
I'll bring Oskaar's mead :-[ if he'll agree :-\

Ted

Oskaar
07-12-2005, 04:18 PM
Hmmm,

Think I'll pass on this one, there's no winning either way. Besides, mead should bring people together, not polarize them in competition. 8)

Cheers,

Oskaar

Miriam
07-12-2005, 04:32 PM
Agreed, Oskaar, agreed.

Miriam

webmaster
07-12-2005, 05:29 PM
...and besides, Pewter is going to be at Pennsic. And I'll be able to sneak up on him.......<evil laughter>Muahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha</evil laughter>


Vicky - reminding herself to *not* wear bells when sneaking

Dan McFeeley
07-13-2005, 04:50 AM
...and besides, Pewter is going to be at Pennsic. And I'll be able to sneak up on him.......<evil laughter>Muahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha</evil laughter>


Vicky - reminding herself to *not* wear bells when sneaking


Bells are standard Ren Faire costume gear? ::)

Brewbear
07-13-2005, 10:04 AM
Well,
My suggestion wasn't meant as an encitement to a mead-off between boys and girls, it was meant as a not so crafty way of getting together and meeting more of the wonderful mazers on this forum.

Ted *I'm a lover not a fighter*

Dan McFeeley
07-13-2005, 12:00 PM
My suggestion wasn't meant as an encitement to a mead-off between boys and girls, it was meant as a not so crafty way of getting together and meeting more of the wonderful mazers on this forum.

We need an excuse? ;D ;D ;D

Pewter_of_Deodar
07-15-2005, 06:27 PM
...and besides, Pewter is going to be at Pennsic. And I'll be able to sneak up on him.......<evil laughter>Muahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha</evil laughter>


Well, anyone that scares the breath out of me has to sit with me and ply me with mead until I am suitably recovered! It could take a while and quite a bit of mead... ::)

With a wink,
Pewter

webmaster
07-18-2005, 09:00 AM
Bells aren't a standard in RenFaire wear, but I'm doing Pennsic in Middle Eastern clothing, and there will be some bells, at least on a couple outfits........

Vicky