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schmoe
12-11-2005, 06:19 AM
i am interested in any quality recipies that
work out well in one-step, eg: mix ingredients,
shake vigorously, pitch yeast, forget about
it for 2 months, and then enjoy (no racking,
no boiling, working well with either
bread yeast or champagne yeast).
recipies that work in one-step because of well chosen
ingredients in well chosen amounts - ingenious simplicity.

so far the only recipie i see fitting this criteria is the
"Ancient Orange, Clove, and Cinnamon Mead" by "Joe".
thank you.

Oskaar
12-11-2005, 06:55 AM
If you break down most mead recipes to their basic parts you can do this with a wide variety of basic meads, melomels, meths, etc. you can toss your ingredients, the yeast, some nutrient, fruit, etc, shake it up and go.

Not really sure what you're asking here. I'd suggest looking at small/short meads (low ABV and such) and do some searching around here using the search button on the top of the threads page. You'll get some good ideas. Then forumlate something that looks like it should work and post it up in the recipe section and ask for the rest of us to take a look and give you some feedback. We'll help out!

Cheers,

Oskaar

schmoe
12-11-2005, 10:49 AM
If you break down most mead recipes to their basic parts you can do this with a wide variety of basic meads, melomels, meths, etc. you can toss your ingredients, the yeast, some nutrient, fruit, etc, shake it up and go.

Not really sure what you're asking here (low ABV and such) ... give you some feedback. We'll help out!

thank you for replying. the reason i am asking is:

1. i am new to mead, never even heard of it my whole life till age 40 :) and i have just been sticking with the Ancient Orange recipie since my reading indicated that it is one of the few, or only, recipies that works in one-step. i read many things critical of it, saying that such a technique is unique to that formula, and would not work with other recipies.
2. i am asking because i live in various places every few months, and would like to be able to make good mead with the bare bones minimum since i can't carry brewing equipment around to various locations, and i cant purchase new equipment every new location i find myself working - so i am looking for ways to make the best (and strongest) mead possible when "on the run". and i thought it might be helpful for people who live elsewhere in different seasons, or people living out in the wild "survival style"; places where it becomes hard to be elaborate.

Brewbear
12-15-2005, 01:22 AM
Welcome to the forums ;D
If i get your meaning right, you want something other than Ancient Orange that uses the same procedure and is ready to drink in a short time. As a rule, mead takes time and as far as i'm aware of, AO is the only *short mead* that packs a wollop! You might consider using the same principle with different fruits or fruit concentrates.

Hope that's of some help,
Brewbear

schmoe
12-15-2005, 06:31 AM
Welcome to the forums ;D
If i get your meaning right, you want something other than Ancient Orange that uses the same procedure and is ready to drink in a short time. As a rule, mead takes time and as far as i'm aware of, AO is the only *short mead* that packs a wollop! You might consider using the same principle with different fruits or fruit concentrates.


i was wondering about using grains or hops maybe.
something similar to a honey beer, or using oats,
etc, something definitely different. things that
don't require a large boiling pot - just regular
stuff and an empty glass apple cider jug.

Tyred
12-15-2005, 07:01 AM
You could check for receipies for cyser or cider. I'm not sure but there are probably some that are pretty much 'set and forget'. The 'simple cyser' receipe appears to be quire easy. I've got that going at the moment. I might rack it soon, but that's only because it's slowing down rapidly. I used the method that I found on http://www.nwlink.com/~badger/cyser.html . There's probably a similar recipe in here for an easy/simple cyser.

You could probably also try searching for simple or quick mead methods/recipes. You never know what you can find.

schmoe
12-15-2005, 08:22 AM
1qt honey = 3lbs honey; less honey = drier, more honey = sweeter; leave 3 inches air at top of carboy (jug) for shaking/foaming; ENSURE CLEANLINESS AND STERILITY (shot glass of bleach per gallon of water sterilizes well); Berkey filtered water is sterile and works well; and no preservatives!

Joes Ancient Orange: to a 1 gallon carboy, add 3.5 lbs honey, 1 whole orange sliced in eigths, 25 raisins, 1 regular cinnamon stick, 1 whole clove. fill with good water, shake. add 1 teaspn bread yeast, cap with airlock, and set in dark 70ishF conditions for 2 months or until done fermenting.

Simple Cyser: to a 1 gallon carboy, add 3 lbs honey. fill with good apple juice, shake. add one teaspn champagne yeast, cap with airlock, and set in dark 70ishF conditions for 2 months or until done fermenting.




yeasts known to age well with lees (yeast sediment): D-47, K1V, DV10, CY3079, R2, RC-212, ICV-D254, BM45, BA11.

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Brewbear
12-16-2005, 01:26 AM
Hey schmoe,
Not to be picky, but the Ancient Orange asks for 1 teaspoon of bread yeast/gallon not one pack. Adding the whole pack would probably get you faster fermentation but I fear it will also result in some yeasty off flavors that may take some time to age out.

Cheers,
Brewbear

byathread
12-16-2005, 11:27 AM
If simple/no-work recipes is what you're after stick with yeasts that are recommended for aging on the lees. This can eliminate the need to rack and you can just siphon to your bottling bucket when the mead's crystal clear. A list of such yeasts can be found below:

http://www.gotmead.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=103&topic=2928.msg24539#msg24539
http://www.gotmead.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=103&topic=2733.msg22514#msg22514

Cysers are easy and quick. Try 1-1.5 lb/gal juice for dry, 2.5-3 lbs/gal juice for sweet. Add spices to taste if you like.

schmoe
12-16-2005, 10:31 PM
Not to be picky, but the Ancient Orange asks for 1 teaspoon of bread yeast/gallon ...





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12-29-2005, 03:03 PM
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