Thanks Griebel. Good to know, and welcome to GotMead !!! Always great to see someone from the Netherlands here. I am between Sneek and Ermelo.
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The Netherlands/Dutch Connection
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Thank you, sir. Sorry for the delayed answer, I am still trying to get the hang of the website.
For the moment I just lurk. Still thinking about if and when I'll start brewing. I'm still on the fence because it is quite the investment, even via brouwland.nl.
I haven't yet tried the fairly cheap German meads of meadandmore so I don't know if they are a good alternative. The easily obtainable "meads" of Ambrosia and Bunratty don't do the trick , the Delftse Mederij is rather expensive.
All in all DIY would be probably cheaper in the end and produce meads to my liking so I'll eventually decide to make the leap in a year or so (fingers crossed). Until then I'll lurk and learn.
Cordially yours,
Herwin van den Engel
Leiden
For the moment I just lurk. Still thinking about if and when I'll start brewing. I'm still on the fence because it is quite the investment, even via brouwland.nl.
I haven't yet tried the fairly cheap German meads of meadandmore so I don't know if they are a good alternative. The easily obtainable "meads" of Ambrosia and Bunratty don't do the trick , the Delftse Mederij is rather expensive.
All in all DIY would be probably cheaper in the end and produce meads to my liking so I'll eventually decide to make the leap in a year or so (fingers crossed). Until then I'll lurk and learn.
Cordially yours,
Herwin van den Engel
Leiden
Ambrosia is wine flavored with honey and is not really mead. Delft is the only commercial meadery in Netherlands. Let us know if you're going to buy supplies....Brouwmarkt isn't always the best deal
I already knew about Ambrosia. That's why I used the "". Sadly it's the most well known and sold in most of the health stores. I guess Europe really needs guidelines on what is mead and what is not. Time for an EMMA as a sister institution to the AMMA.
As to alternative stores I'm only aware of brouwmarkt.com and perhaps small drugstores / apothekers. When I go shopping I'd like to go all out with the list from Steve Piatz's book.
As to alternative stores I'm only aware of brouwmarkt.com and perhaps small drugstores / apothekers. When I go shopping I'd like to go all out with the list from Steve Piatz's book.
Marktplaats can be your friend. Also, I have an excess of sulfite and sorbate that can go at cost. Lots of other ways to economize.
Thank you, sir.
Apparently some ingredients are sold only in large quantities?
I have been poking around on Marktplaats but only sought for the whole brewing package. Thank you for the pointer and the offer.
Apparently some ingredients are sold only in large quantities?
I have been poking around on Marktplaats but only sought for the whole brewing package. Thank you for the pointer and the offer.
What about trying to make jaom? It doesn't require any special ingredients or equipment other than the jug the water comes in.
Sent from my TARDIS at the restaurant at the end of the universe while eating Phil.
I believe Ambrosia has one mead. All the others are wines flavoured with honey/fruit/spices.
http://www.ambrosia.nl/index.php/nl/mede
Also De Traay sells a couple of meads, it seems (at least they call it "mede"). I can't find many details about how they're made, though.
http://www.detraayhoning.com/catalog/category/142/wijnen
http://www.ambrosia.nl/index.php/nl/mede
Also De Traay sells a couple of meads, it seems (at least they call it "mede"). I can't find many details about how they're made, though.
http://www.detraayhoning.com/catalog/category/142/wijnen
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Sounds like another honey flavored wine.....muscat enriched with honey. Jaron Agelink of Delft Meadery seems to have a corner on the market
Hello Mannye,
The JAOM was the first recipe I had in mind to make. But I see two problems:
I live in the Netherlands. The tap water here is on par with mineral water. Mineral water is sold in plastic bottles up to 1,5 litres. I have no knowledge of any product that comes in a gallon-size bottle. Only thing that comes close in the Netherlands are 2 litre plastic bottles used for fruit juice. Hmmmm, perhaps I can get my hands on glass 2 litre bottles used for Westons Cider. That would mean dividing the yeast in equal parts and inserting the orange one slice (don't know the right word) at a time since the mouth is only 1,5 centimeters wide.
Another problem is that we don't have Fleischmann's Yeast. The "alternative JAOM" threads only mention other fruits, no alternative for the yeast. My first proper post would have been about this. Can you use just any bread yeast? If not, I would have to get a credit card and order in via the British Amazon.
For my first time brewing I would like to follow the instructions to the letter.
The JAOM was the first recipe I had in mind to make. But I see two problems:
I live in the Netherlands. The tap water here is on par with mineral water. Mineral water is sold in plastic bottles up to 1,5 litres. I have no knowledge of any product that comes in a gallon-size bottle. Only thing that comes close in the Netherlands are 2 litre plastic bottles used for fruit juice. Hmmmm, perhaps I can get my hands on glass 2 litre bottles used for Westons Cider. That would mean dividing the yeast in equal parts and inserting the orange one slice (don't know the right word) at a time since the mouth is only 1,5 centimeters wide.
Another problem is that we don't have Fleischmann's Yeast. The "alternative JAOM" threads only mention other fruits, no alternative for the yeast. My first proper post would have been about this. Can you use just any bread yeast? If not, I would have to get a credit card and order in via the British Amazon.
For my first time brewing I would like to follow the instructions to the letter.
Or should I just buy a regular glass vessel used for brewing instead of being cheap and taking the recipe too literally?
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The instructions expressly state to do exactly as they say. It's better, cheaper and foolproof if you follow the directions exactly. The only specialized equipment you need is an airlock. But if you don't have an airlock snap a balloon on the mouth of the jug and poke a few holes in it with a pin. Done.
Sent from my TARDIS at the restaurant at the end of the universe while eating Phil.
Sent from my TARDIS at the restaurant at the end of the universe while eating Phil.
Griebel, I live in the Netherlands as well.
For a JAOM you can use Dr. Oetker breadyeast (the green paper bags), works like a charm.
As for the fermentation vessel, At brouwmarkt.nl they sell (almost) anything you need. You can get a 5 liter carboy plus an airlock for 10 euros. Instead you can also make a smaller batch in plastic milk jugs (2,5 liter) with an balloon airlock.
http://www.brouwmarkt.nl/gistingsfles-5-liter-recht-model.html
http://www.brouwmarkt.nl/siliconen-stop-26x32-mm-groen-met-gat-voor-waterslot.html
http://www.brouwmarkt.nl/waterslot-classic-slangmodel-prijstopper.html
For a JAOM you can use Dr. Oetker breadyeast (the green paper bags), works like a charm.
As for the fermentation vessel, At brouwmarkt.nl they sell (almost) anything you need. You can get a 5 liter carboy plus an airlock for 10 euros. Instead you can also make a smaller batch in plastic milk jugs (2,5 liter) with an balloon airlock.
http://www.brouwmarkt.nl/gistingsfles-5-liter-recht-model.html
http://www.brouwmarkt.nl/siliconen-stop-26x32-mm-groen-met-gat-voor-waterslot.html
http://www.brouwmarkt.nl/waterslot-classic-slangmodel-prijstopper.html
Personally, I would spring for the glass brewing vessel and adjust the recipe to the vessel size. Any standard bread yeast should be a good substitute for Fleischmann's, if it is not available. I think it is named because it is a standard brand in the USA, not because it is "magic" in any way. Not everyone in the world has access to those things deemed "standard" in the US, so some adjustments will be necessary. The parts about assembling the ingredients and leaving it alone can be done worldwide, so I would stick with those. My experience is that it is really pretty foolproof (and good, if sweet), and I am sure will be, even if adjusted to the availability of things in The Netherlands. Good luck!
Thanks for the info, I was mostly concerned about the yeast. Having to order from abroad seems pushing it.
I talked to a neighbour and he told me a small old fashioned drugstore that sells glass vessels and water locks. Slightly more money but it saves a train trip across the country. Huzzah for the Dutch small towns and the bikes.
I talked to a neighbour and he told me a small old fashioned drugstore that sells glass vessels and water locks. Slightly more money but it saves a train trip across the country. Huzzah for the Dutch small towns and the bikes.
Hello there,
A question for the people living in the Netherlands; where do I buy K2CO3? It is used for creating the BOMM. Potassium is sold in tablets, but I don't think it is quite the same. Is there an alternative?
A question for the people living in the Netherlands; where do I buy K2CO3? It is used for creating the BOMM. Potassium is sold in tablets, but I don't think it is quite the same. Is there an alternative?
I have a bag of Vinoferm FBN that I use.... I think I got it at Brouwmarkt in Almere, but you can also mail order it from brouwLAND in Belgium. This is the stuff here....
https://www.brouwland.com/en/our-pr.../deacidifier-fbn-vinoferm-250-gr#.VW59DHmJjIU
https://www.brouwland.com/en/our-pr.../deacidifier-fbn-vinoferm-250-gr#.VW59DHmJjIU
I bought this, and a couple of other salts used commonly in brewing, here.
K2CO3: http://www.hekserij.nl/Kaliumcarbonaat.aspx
K2CO3: http://www.hekserij.nl/Kaliumcarbonaat.aspx
ah nice to find some dutch mead brewers and dutchies that love a good mead.. Have not been trough the whole thread will do that tonight but just wanted to say hello to the dutchies here 
. Will update this post when i have read the whole thread.
BTW i live in leeuwarden.
. Will update this post when i have read the whole thread.BTW i live in leeuwarden.
