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02-02-2013, 01:05 AM
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Join Date: May 2010
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Oxygenating Must Too Late?
Hello!
I'm on my third mead: a standard medium-sweet black sage mead, based heavily off Ken Schramm's "Medium" Recipe in the Compleat Meadmaker.
Original Gravity was 1.094: it's now hovering at about 1.023, after 8 days of fermentation.
Up until the third sugar break, I stirred, oxygenated with 0.5 micron stone for 2 mins, and adjusted the pH to ~3.5. Then I left it alone for a few days.
Today, I checked and adjusted the pH, stirred the must/mead, and then, without thinking, I oxygenated it for 1-2 minutes. I checked the gravity after doing this, and realized that the mead was much further along in its fermentation than I had originally thought.
Will the ~1-2 minutes of O2 this late in fermentation cause problems with oxidation/off flavors? I did some research, and have found that people generally stop oxygenation after 1/3 break, to prevent oxidation of the fermenting must. I had always thought oxidation to be a post-fermentation issue, but you learn something new everyday.
How bad should I expect this to be? I've already lost a mead due to oxidation, and I'd hate to think I've done it again. =(
I'd be very grateful for any thoughts.
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02-02-2013, 03:10 AM
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General Idiot.....
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I'd have thought you'd be fine. The point of aerating down to the 1/3rd break is to do with helping yeast colony development. Oxygen helps the yeast grow rather than produce alcohol, which I understand is what happens when the yeast is fermenting in the anaerobic stage.
Hence I believe you should be fine. No need to meddle further with it. Just let it finish......
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02-02-2013, 09:17 AM
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While there are active yeast in the must, it is hard to do oxidative damage. The yeast keep the environment very reductive.
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02-03-2013, 09:19 AM
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Egg
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Join Date: May 2010
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Thanks!
Thank you very much, Medsen and fatbloke, for your reassuring advice.
Cheers!
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02-03-2013, 09:53 AM
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Verbose Intermeadiot
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Sage mead, did you say? I'm insterested in how much sage you used, whether it was fresh or dry, and how it tastes? I made a sage mead a while back and the early tastings said it really really needed to mellow a bit but later tastings have said it's mellowing nicely.
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02-03-2013, 01:02 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Santa Monica, CA
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I make a Sage mead that everyone loves.
I just take a hike up the hill and pick fresh California White Sage. I use 1 full sized leaf per gallon in secondary and taste every 12 hours or so. I wait until I like it, let it go another 12-24 hours and take them out. It seems to my taste buds that the sage will lesson by about 20% over the next couple of weeks and then gradually lesson a bit more if let to set around, but mine never seems to.
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02-03-2013, 01:39 PM
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Egg
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Join Date: May 2010
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Actually, Black Sage is the floral source for this varietal honey. It's a mild, medium-light honey with just a bit of noticeable sage flavor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_mellifera
I'm planning to use pineapple sage blossoms and foliage in the secondary later on as a flavoring.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineapple_sage
S. elegans has a wonderfully light floral-pineapple aroma, but it is much milder than most other sages: it doesn't hold up as well to cooking, but it makes truly amazing iced tea. I'm thinking that at least a large spray of flowers per gallon of mead will be necessary to get the aroma I want, but I really have no idea of dosage with this sage variety. I'll let you know how it goes!
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Originally Posted by Chevette Girl
Sage mead, did you say? I'm insterested in how much sage you used, whether it was fresh or dry, and how it tastes? I made a sage mead a while back and the early tastings said it really really needed to mellow a bit but later tastings have said it's mellowing nicely.
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02-03-2013, 01:43 PM
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Verbose Intermeadiot
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Join Date: Apr 2010
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Aah, my mistake It's always my base assumption that something in the name of the mead is an additive rather than a honey variety since I don't have a lot of selection around here
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