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01-04-2010, 09:42 PM
Forget the PETA type people. But what about bait and switch? Is it common for a bee keeper to lie about the kind of honey they have? If I call up and say 'Do you have apple blossom honey?" and they say "uh... um... yeah... sure.. how much you need?" just in time to make a new label for the jar of wildflower... is that something that happens?

Medsen Fey
01-04-2010, 10:01 PM
Honey imported from China has been documented to be cut with high fructose corn syrup among other things. I'm sure there are a few less than honest folks who might try doing as you suggest. Caveat Emptor!

Fortunately, some honey is pretty distinctive - orange blossom, meadowfoam, berry honey, tupelo, and heather are just a few that you won't likely get mixed up with anything else. I'm not sure about apple blossom.

If you deal with reputable folks, you'll get good honey. BeeFolks (http://www.beefolks.com/), who are great sponsors of this site, the Mazer Cup, and mead making in general have great honey. It isn't always cheap, but with them, you get what you pay for. You can find other good suppliers that people have dealt with mentioned in posts throughout the forums.

If you have a local producer, then you can meet them face to face and see how much they care about their product - you'll probably be able to tell what kind of quality you are getting (and you can learn a whole lot). If you find a good producer, be sure and post up to tell us about them - we all like to support good folks.

01-04-2010, 10:45 PM
One thing to keep in mind is that even a good-sized local producer may not always know everything there is to know about the honeys that they have available. My favorite local supplier here in Colorado has a large apiary operation that does both the local eastern Colorado wildflower/pasture (which they know is 80% clover/alfalfa, with the rest being from nectars produced by the local wildflowers native to our grasslands), and does orange grove pollination every spring, so they get loads of first-quality California Orange Blossom honey. Periodically they'll trade honey with other local producers around the country -- that's how he got lots of excellent raspberry-blossom from a producer in Oregon last year. However, sometimes he'll trade for something totally foreign to him. That's how he got 20 barrels of "California Wildflower," that he called "Brown California $#!%." He offered some to me at a bargain price, and when I saw, smelled and tasted it I realized that he had barrels-full of wonderful wildflower that was at least 80% western buckwheat! ;D

That was a nice find.

01-30-2010, 02:49 PM
Bee folks... please take a look at this topic, it relates to ethics as well, involving possible watering down or corn syruping honey. Thank you!


(Also... moderators... please feel free to edit my title to "Ethics" if it bothers you as much as it bothers me... thanks!)

02-01-2010, 06:21 PM
(Also... moderators... please feel free to edit my title to "Ethics" if it bothers you as much as it bothers me... thanks!)

Done deal!