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    My February plain mead not clearing worth a ------
    !0 lbs honey, bread yeast water
    It was a fairly dark yellow, cleared about 1/3 down early april, reracked it and added bentonite, now its a lighter yellow and hazy top to bottom, Added hot sparkolloid last friday, still hazy top to bottom.
    Storing on floor unheated garage, was 32f to 60 last couple weeks

    Late Feb Blueberry Mead, cleared to a beautiful light purple, not as sweet as when bottled a month ago, but everyone loves it.
    22 lbs honey, step feed from 12, 1 gallon crushed blueberry's added at 1.1, started with breadyeast, added premere cuvo (?speeling)when it slowed down, and started steping 3 lbs at a time

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    How long has it been since you mixed in the bentonite? It can take a 2 weeks+ to settle out in my limited experience using it. I haven't tried sparkaloid myself but that is supposed to work really well.
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    Do you know the FG of the mead?

    It's still very young, I'd not be surprised if it is a bit cloudy still. Time helps.
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    Mead was .99
    I'd check it again but grandkids (1 1/2) were in garage again, need another hydrometer again
    Supposed to go to 31 tonight, maybe I'll leave garage door open

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    Hazy sound good to me. Give it time and a good cold crash for a week. Then give it time, should clear up. Patience is golden with mead x3
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    If its gassy its hard to get those fining agents to drop sometimes. WVMJ

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    cordless drill and a paddle got all that out weeks ago
    will just have to sit on it longer I guess

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    Give it another good swirl, worst can happen is you mix it up good again. WVMJ

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    Yeah, you really do need to degas before you use fining agents. Stirring it all up again might help too, it will bring more of the particles of your fining agent into contact with the little particles you want it to stick to. As much as stirring up something sort of clear so it becomes really cloudy again does seem counterintuitive, the more particles that come in contact with each other, the more likely they are to stick together and become big enough particles to fall out faster.
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    Its sitting there right now, trying to ignore it, and let it do its thing. Maybe a peek in a couple days

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    YUCK
    Still hazy but can see outline of my hand other side of 6 gallons
    .998 still
    tastes real citrus'y to me,
    I did not add any citrisc acid
    I suppose if it was lemonade I could backsweeten
    No sign of any wine fingers on the drinking glass
    Aroma, sorry my nose does not function correctly

    No sign of nausea yet either

    Is it saveable?
    Add more honey and repitch?

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    found recipe
    maybe I did citric

    5 gallon recipe called for 10 lbs honey (2 qt bottles)(dry mead)
    6 tsp acid blend
    2.5 pectic enzyme
    4 tsp yeast nutrient
    1 pack red star premier cuvee

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    Your best bet at this point is to put it away and forget about it for a few months. With time, most meads will clear, and the honey character will start to return. You added a lot if acid, and that may mean you'll need to backsweeten to bring it back into balance, but you can decide later, after it clears.

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    I may have to make beer.
    I'm going thru alcohol deprivation waiting on mead

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokepole View Post
    I may have to make beer.
    I'm going thru alcohol deprivation waiting on mead
    Yeah, that's a good reason to start with making beer first -- there's only a 1 month wait before you have something ready to enjoy. Or better, start with making 5 batches of mead your first week and then switch to beer for the next year or two while the mead matures.

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    I've had multiple batches, the same as yours with just the honey, water and bread yeast (i.e. super cheap, super basic). All of them cleared up on their own to become as clear as water, golden water that is. I've used no fining agents or other chemicals.

    All I did was rack after primary, after secondary I put the whole thing in the fridge on its highest setting for a week. It would still be hazy after that but I blame it on the frequent opening/closing of the door. I placed them in a closet where they wouldn't be stirred and after a week = crisp clear.

    In fact, I still have 1 10l batch in secondary, same recipe, which is already clearing up to near-total clarity without the cold crash and currently enjoying some oak cubes. I plan to rack off the remaining lees and oak and then give it its cold crash.

    So not sure what could go wrong with this procedure, apart from the more experienced mead makers here objecting to bread yeast or the low-tech approach, etc, as far it comes to clearing up I've never had any problem.

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    I just checked.
    Sediment getting deeper still, but still cant see my hand on other side of carbouy.
    Continuing to wait.
    I"ve got time, I'm only 62

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokepole View Post
    I just checked.
    Sediment getting deeper still, but still cant see my hand on other side of carbouy.
    Continuing to wait.
    I"ve got time, I'm only 62
    And you're already in Hell anyway

    Time is your friend I guess :/ Just how cold was your cold crash?
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    In april we were still having subfreezing nights here. I left in the unheated garage, next to a open door.
    No spare fridges here

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