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    Default New study in UK finds neonics.....

    ...may not be the worst of the threats to bees. Yet, this article really doesn't identify what the problem is, if only 1/5 of the issue is neonics.
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    Yeah, neonics get the brunt of the blame because they're a single, man-made source that's easy to point the finger at. But like most things in science/nature the answer is significantly more complex.

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    First report:
    Neonics are only 1/5 of the problem. 1/5 is still a pretty big fraction. The fact that they're not too sure about which factors affect bees and that this study could not be carried out in best conditions also makes me hesitant to accept that it is 'only' 1/5.
    The first study quotes Woodcock saying that:
    "It needs to be taken in a very holistic perspective, you can't just say as long as we can save the bees everything else can go to hell, that's not where you want to be at,"

    Second report:
    Another report about the same study says that neonics increases risk of population decline by 3 times. It quotes that:
    "Woodcock's team said this should add to the body of evidence being considered in a review of neonicotinoid risks to bees..." So it seems to be saying neonics are bad and this study piles more evidence that they should be avoided.

    So as usual, studies can be reported in whichever way sounds best for the writer's bias. I wonder what the result of the review of the neonics ban will be and what excuse they'll have for it
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