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    Default V-Vessel <No racking>

    Well I was browsing MoreBeer as I do, looking at products I canít possibly afford, let alone find space for. But I stumbled across this one the V-Vessel

    Link: http://www.morebeer.com/product.html?product_id=16678

    Looks like on interesting contraption, but its construction means you donít have to rack your product. I thought I would post a link to it for others to have a look at it you havenít found it, does anyone have one of these? If so how do they work overall?

    It looks nifty thatís for sure, and it seems it would be helpful when it comes to removing sediment, and bottling.

    Mu.

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    It's nice, but for $110 you'd think that the stand for the thing would be included...

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    Default Re: V-Vessel <No racking>

    I just can't get behind a plastic vessel without a stand for $110. I'll use my carboys until I decide on a conical size.

    Cheers,

    Oskaar
    Is it tasty . . . precious?

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    Some interesting things I noticed...

    I was looking at the plastic conical fermenters by Williams brewing ( http://www.mivamall.com/Merchant2/me...tegory_Code=FM ) and noticed the 25 gallon model is 140 lbs, and costs $495 plus $108 shipping to where I am in Iowa. Making a grand total of $603. The Stainless Steel 27 gallon Fermenator ( http://www.northernbrewer.com/conical.html ) is only 48 pounds, free shipping when purchased from Brew City Supplies, for a total of $695. I know which I'd rather have and $92 bucks doesn't seem that big a difference for the jump in quality and features (rotating racking arm, able to transfer under pressure using CO2) all at 1/3rd the weight.

    Williaws Minibrew Fermenator

    Wrathwilde

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    I am just not a big fan of plastic fermentation vessels. Even with food grade plastics and diligent cleaning, the vessels will eventually absorb flavors and odors that will affect your brews. I do use the el cheapo plastic fermentation buckets, or empty media component buckets from my job for secondary fruit additions. However, I consider these expendable and replace them every two years or so.

    Considering the costs involved with the larger conical fermenters, it would be a MUCH better investment in the long run to go with stainless steel. Those vessels will last a lifetime with proper care.

    Peace.

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    I have a V-Vessel now and my first batch is in it.

    First impressions:

    Hard to oxygenate so do so BEFORE you put your mead down.
    I have fears about how easy its going to be to clean.
    Didnt come with legs, its supposed to be mounted on the wall.

    To fix the legs problem, I took a wooden barstool and modified it to fit
    the vessel. Works like a charm.

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    I have V-Vessel for 6 years and I am very pleased with it.

    Yes, you donīt have to rack the mead to a secondary. But donīt bottle from the bottom, it is better if you do the siphoning as usual, also I recomend to use a racking cane with savers tips becasue no matter how clear the mead seems to be, there will be a lot of solids at the wall and you donīt want them in your bottles.

    Yes, clean it is not easy, you have to pay atention to the supports, in the out side they look as solid plastic bars, but they donīt, there are two holes inside the fermenter where the supports are and they are very difficult to clean and sanitize. I throwed out the brushes, I use pressurized water to do the mechanical cleaning. After you solve the cleaning problem you'll find it very practical.

    regards

    Noe

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    Personally I'm not impressed with the V-Vessel. The price to me is too high for the benefits, and it's plastic.

    Cheers,

    Oskaar
    Is it tasty . . . precious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PBakulic View Post
    Personally I'm not impressed with the V-Vessel. The price to me is too high for the benefits, and it's plastic.

    Cheers,

    Oskaar
    I'm not going to argue Oskaar, but Blur has already one, I have one, if you already spend the money on it there is only one thing to do: make mead and enjoy it.

    regards,

    Noe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noe Palacios View Post
    I'm not going to argue Oskaar, but Blur has already one, I have one, if you already spend the money on it there is only one thing to do: make mead and enjoy it.

    regards,

    Noe
    Yeah, if you've already bought it you should definitely use it. I don't have one so it's not a problem for me.

    Cheers,

    Oskaar
    Is it tasty . . . precious?

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