Hehehe, that WOULD be pretty funny!
Good point. I suppose if I find that it needs balance after 6 months, I could always try oaking it as well.
Pipe Tobacco Mead?
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Hehehe, that WOULD be pretty funny!
Good point. I suppose if I find that it needs balance after 6 months, I could always try oaking it as well.
You may find the tannins from the tobacco will be enough that you won't need oak. It is interesting that oak will sometimes add some tobacco aroma (medium toast French does for me), so it'll be interesting to see what tobacco adds.
Tasted it a few days ago & it's pretty rough, as expected I suppose. It had that tobacco bite to it. I will rack/age it for a few(+) months & see what happens.
Tried it recently, just shy of six months old. Still a little harsh, kinda burns on the way down (not an alcohol burn). I'm contemplating some options to help smooth out the harshness besides more aging, which it will get regardless. Here's what comes to mind:
-Vanilla beans
-Cherry Perhaps? (that's what some "old-timer" tobaccos smell like)
-Stabilize, then backsweeten with more wildflower honey
-Anise (also used in some "old-timer" tobaccos)
Any other ideas?
-Vanilla beans
-Cherry Perhaps? (that's what some "old-timer" tobaccos smell like)
-Stabilize, then backsweeten with more wildflower honey
-Anise (also used in some "old-timer" tobaccos)
Any other ideas?
Well, if you want to know what it'll be like if you backsweeten, that's easy enough to try with a small sample... maybe a hint of vanilla extract might give you an idea if it would help... the rest, I couldn't tell you without tasting the stuff 
I know it's a bit late, but here is some helpful info on tobacco.
5g of tobacco contains ~15mg of nicotine. As CG pointed out, a lethal dose for humans is 60mg (same amount as hydrogen cyanide). In addition, nicotine is easily extracted in alcohol, though it can also leech out into water if given a long enough soak.
I'm not sure how much you ended up using, but I'd be careful drinking this stuff. Especially if you plan on sharing it. For a non-smoker, the effects could be very unpleasant.
As for ideas to help round the flavor out, I'd say cherries and age. Maybe some vanilla if you feel like it.
Just my $0.02
5g of tobacco contains ~15mg of nicotine. As CG pointed out, a lethal dose for humans is 60mg (same amount as hydrogen cyanide). In addition, nicotine is easily extracted in alcohol, though it can also leech out into water if given a long enough soak.
I'm not sure how much you ended up using, but I'd be careful drinking this stuff. Especially if you plan on sharing it. For a non-smoker, the effects could be very unpleasant.
As for ideas to help round the flavor out, I'd say cherries and age. Maybe some vanilla if you feel like it.
Just my $0.02
Another late response -- if this could be made to work, possibly introducing pipe smoke into the fermenting must, water pipe style, as a means of both introducing flavor and aerating the must during the early phases. ;D
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An egg-white fining is good for removing excess tannins, and I wonder if that would take some of the harshness out.
Nicotine is a water soluble drug in its base form, with an LD 50 of 0.5-1.0 mg/kg (less than cocaine) ... not a pleasant drug to be adding to one's beverage, unless it was for uninvited guests. Even then, I don't know as this would be safe. Caveat emptor.
IMHO
The same thing applies as does with smoking though - yes the whole pack/batch would kill you off immediately, but ingested in smaller doses (cigarette/glass) is different. I'd be careful with it and not drink large amounts - but this is not going to end up tasting like something someone would chug, not in my opinion anyways!
http://www.southsmoke.com/pd-zero-herbal-molasses-100g.cfm?RID=36671&TID=1
Tobacco-less shisha? I wonder how this would taste fermented? Any smokey flavors?
Tobacco-less shisha? I wonder how this would taste fermented? Any smokey flavors?
not to be crass, but dude.... if you end up dying from this, you realize we're putting you up for a darwin award right?
Anthony Bourdain talks about having a Marlboro Creme Brulee at the French Laundry in Napa. The chefs knew he was coming, so they made it for him so he wouldn't need to leave the table for a smoke break. I guess from what he said they broke down a whole cigar and infused the creme with it. He really liked it, it worked, and he did not get poisoned.
The nicotine levels in pipe tobacco are much lower than cigarettes, and probably a lot lower than we think. This is a far cry from the single droop of pure nicotine that can kill an adult by being absorbed through the skin. That said, I am not sure how it would taste and interact with everything. I am curious about the long run flavors and how it works out.
The nicotine levels in pipe tobacco are much lower than cigarettes, and probably a lot lower than we think. This is a far cry from the single droop of pure nicotine that can kill an adult by being absorbed through the skin. That said, I am not sure how it would taste and interact with everything. I am curious about the long run flavors and how it works out.
