I'll take a look at it. She does like board games and some card games, though I'm not the biggest fan myself, but let me check it out and I'll get back with you. ;D
Girl's Got Toys!!
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I'll take a look at it. She does like board games and some card games, though I'm not the biggest fan myself, but let me check it out and I'll get back with you. ;D
You know, some people protest against drinking with one reason when the real reason is entirely different. If she honestly doesn't WANT to, that's different than CAN'T, and it's totally ok. It's like the sweet potato derailment yesterday; no need to fix anyone.
As a weird side note, being a girl, I can vouch for the fact that sometimes consuming something that contains live yeast (not just fermented beverages) can upset my.. um... balance and increase yeast activity in places I DO NOT WANT. Just sayin'. Biology is a funny thing. If something doesn't agree with it, best not to poke the sleeping bear.
Oh I completely understand and agree. That's why I'm not putting any pressure on her to do drink or do anything of that like nor do I ever give her grief about it or even playfully raz her over it. Over time, that sort of thing can build up into a pressure all of its own and turn from innocent jesting into something that is not good, so really this is a non-issue between us. I do understand the whole symmetry of biological impact as well and who knows, that may be the whys and wherefor's. Eh, more mead for me, just hate getting this involved in something that she's not really at all into, you know, but I am definitely enjoying making mead. ;D
We have a dozen people in our gaming group right now, and I think there are 4 of us who will have a drink now and then. Of the people I associate with regularly, a few can't drink because of meds they're on, some more are really sensitive to tannins and have actual allergies to certain fruits, one now gets migraines from even a little bit of mead or wine or beer or booze, another's diabetic and shouldn't have much alcohol, another never tried it at all because of the number of alcoholics in her family, and I have at least three other friends who just don't like the taste of anything alcoholic. <shrug> They're welcome to try anything I offer, and they're just as welcome not to. More for me that way 
Deacon Aegis, it's very interesting that your wife would have problems with brewer's yeast and not baker's yeast. My friend's sister developed an allergy to yeast and apparently now she's supposed to avoid anything made with yeast, which includes not only alcohol and breads but also soy sauce and vinegar... what a bland existence... Go ahead and brew a JAO, all you can do is offer it to her and understand if she's not interested.
I have other friends who now can't have things they used to really like, so I try to make it so they can (gluten-free baking, sugar free baking, allergy avoidance in cooking and baking, etc), it's a fun challenge for me and often appreciated by them.
But as a friend of mine who's grown out of nut allergies told me, you do form negative associations with tastes, so even though she could eat some types of nuts now, she just doesn't enjoy the taste... and having developed a mild allergy to hazelnuts myself (in my 20's of all stupid things), even if I were suddenly to be not allergic to them, the taste will still ring all my "Ack, do I have Benadryl?" alarm bells probably for years to come.
And Altricious, I TOTALLY understand. This is from over ten years' experience with systemic candidasis (and for those of you out there who know about these things, no it has not left me gluten OR lactose intolerant, thank the gods), but I haven't let it get in the way of wine and meadmaking. Or breadmaking from scratch. The answer (for me, anyway) is yogurt and not letting your sugar levels get too high. Oddly enough, for me the consumption of live yeast (from oh, say, hydrometer test tubes... or raw bread dough...) is nowhere near the problem that overindulging in sugar is. If you eat a live culture yogurt with your sugar, the yogurt eats the sugar before the yeast (which is usually already present in most people's systems) can get to it. Sure beats the anti-candida diet (which is just cruel and unusual punishment).
Deacon Aegis, it's very interesting that your wife would have problems with brewer's yeast and not baker's yeast. My friend's sister developed an allergy to yeast and apparently now she's supposed to avoid anything made with yeast, which includes not only alcohol and breads but also soy sauce and vinegar... what a bland existence... Go ahead and brew a JAO, all you can do is offer it to her and understand if she's not interested.
I have other friends who now can't have things they used to really like, so I try to make it so they can (gluten-free baking, sugar free baking, allergy avoidance in cooking and baking, etc), it's a fun challenge for me and often appreciated by them.
But as a friend of mine who's grown out of nut allergies told me, you do form negative associations with tastes, so even though she could eat some types of nuts now, she just doesn't enjoy the taste... and having developed a mild allergy to hazelnuts myself (in my 20's of all stupid things), even if I were suddenly to be not allergic to them, the taste will still ring all my "Ack, do I have Benadryl?" alarm bells probably for years to come.
And Altricious, I TOTALLY understand. This is from over ten years' experience with systemic candidasis (and for those of you out there who know about these things, no it has not left me gluten OR lactose intolerant, thank the gods), but I haven't let it get in the way of wine and meadmaking. Or breadmaking from scratch. The answer (for me, anyway) is yogurt and not letting your sugar levels get too high. Oddly enough, for me the consumption of live yeast (from oh, say, hydrometer test tubes... or raw bread dough...) is nowhere near the problem that overindulging in sugar is. If you eat a live culture yogurt with your sugar, the yogurt eats the sugar before the yeast (which is usually already present in most people's systems) can get to it. Sure beats the anti-candida diet (which is just cruel and unusual punishment).
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Also, so totally understand about not wanting to drink. As I said, not much of a drinker myself. Usually only at a party and only one or two. I love sharing it. But seriously, Learning to brew mead has taught me many other skills. Skills that enhance the brewing and the like. Making extracts is the one that I mentioned. Those are most easily shared with people that don't drink. I even made some non-alcoholic vanilla extract for a friend that is an alcoholic and can't drink. I used gliserine. (Just know I spelled it wrong). Also, you can learn to put various flavors together and have an idea on what it tastes like. Need to to make many different flavored meads. This helps in cooking and making teas. Once you have the patients to brew a Meglathin or a Mel then you have all kinds of skills and if given a recipie can make an awesome cook. Now, I am not a good cook but if I am given a recipie and some technique knowledge then I can make something very yummy that is sure to get me compliments.
Though some may disapprove, for the skill set and the knowledge and the like I am considering teaching a friends 14 year old how to make mead and extracts and the like. I also figure that when she goes to college she will have the expirience to be extreemly popular at the parties and the like. Also, the patients learned will help out with studying and the like. Who knows? No, I don't plan on getting said 14 year old drunk. But she may be allowed to sample mine and her creations as long as it's only a shot or a glass, with supervision. This is all with parental approval. I wish that I had learned to brew in high school. It would have made college much easier for me and more fun.
The point is, Brewing is not just a hobbie that has only one application: make alcoholic beverages. It can be a bounding point to MUCH more.
Matrix
Though some may disapprove, for the skill set and the knowledge and the like I am considering teaching a friends 14 year old how to make mead and extracts and the like. I also figure that when she goes to college she will have the expirience to be extreemly popular at the parties and the like. Also, the patients learned will help out with studying and the like. Who knows? No, I don't plan on getting said 14 year old drunk. But she may be allowed to sample mine and her creations as long as it's only a shot or a glass, with supervision. This is all with parental approval. I wish that I had learned to brew in high school. It would have made college much easier for me and more fun.
The point is, Brewing is not just a hobbie that has only one application: make alcoholic beverages. It can be a bounding point to MUCH more.
Matrix
My 7 year old nephew helps me make mead all the time and loves learning the different aspects of science involved. I think it's a great learning experience for them. And yeah he does get a sample of the first couple times we pull some out for a Gravity reading when the alcohol is still low. He loved the Bochet.
That's great, except that despite my love of all things dairy, I find yogurt to be among the grossest things on earth. In fact, I'm pretty sure the yogurt culture negates every dairy aspect that I like. Also, those stupid Activia commercials drive me nuts. Of course you won't be constipated if you eat yogurt 3 times a day. You'd be lucky not to have to poop 5 times a day eating that much yogurt. Crazy people.
*shrug* I usually find the right balance of things and it's not straight sugar so much as fresh bread that gives me fits. Man, there's nothing like fresh homemade bread is there? I just have to remember moderation and I'm OK.
Yogurt! Yogurt! I hate yogurt, even with strawberries. - Dark Helmet
(couldn't help it. LOL) :director2:
My wife has been very susceptible to really bad kidney infections ever since giving birth to our 2nd son. Of course, the doctor put her on massive antibiotics which he told her would only be a temporary solution (every time the infection came back - more antibiotics). This of course destroyed her immune system so she began taking suppliments with acidophilus, bifidus, and other probiotics. They not only helped to rebuild her immune system but also helped to keep the infections at bay.
I don't know if suppliments would work like yogurt in the way that Chevette mentioned, but they might be helpful in other ways as an effective substitute for the dreaded yogurt.
My wife has been very susceptible to really bad kidney infections ever since giving birth to our 2nd son. Of course, the doctor put her on massive antibiotics which he told her would only be a temporary solution (every time the infection came back - more antibiotics). This of course destroyed her immune system so she began taking suppliments with acidophilus, bifidus, and other probiotics. They not only helped to rebuild her immune system but also helped to keep the infections at bay.
I don't know if suppliments would work like yogurt in the way that Chevette mentioned, but they might be helpful in other ways as an effective substitute for the dreaded yogurt.
Yeah, it's a bad idea to kill off everything living in your gut. My digestion is just fine though. Like most people, I only have a problem when I overindulge. You know, like when I make bread from my lees and eat an entire loaf for lunch (still warm from the oven... mmmmmm). And then do it again the next day. Sometimes it's just so hard to say no.
I used to work as a baker (for about 18 years) and my favorites were always the breads & croissants way more than the sweet stuff. Nothing like fresh warm bread! And no, I never baked at home. I like to cook sometimes but baking is too much work.
Just an observation, but I can't help but be amused at how quickly this thread went from "Girl's got toys" to yeast allergies. lol Welcome to the world of hijacked threads Honey. I hope all of your questions were addressed. Still a lot of good info though, and I appreciated Matrix4b's insightfulness!
I used to work as a baker (for about 18 years) and my favorites were always the breads & croissants way more than the sweet stuff. Nothing like fresh warm bread! And no, I never baked at home. I like to cook sometimes but baking is too much work.
Just an observation, but I can't help but be amused at how quickly this thread went from "Girl's got toys" to yeast allergies. lol Welcome to the world of hijacked threads Honey. I hope all of your questions were addressed. Still a lot of good info though, and I appreciated Matrix4b's insightfulness!
Well, you have to admit that any thread titled "Girl's got toys" was begging for a derailment. It could have been much, much worse.
Well, too sort of bring the thread back on track......
I too have a couple of 5's, but they're a doddle, compared to the 2 x 54litre carboys I have. Full up, they're a real ball breaker, even for a 6'4" 260lb trucker.........
You soon learn that what can't be lifted, can be moved in other ways i.e. pumped.....
And as for the yeast allergy, surely, if bacteria sized stuff can be filtered, and yeast are larger, then sterile filtration should do the trick......
I too have a couple of 5's, but they're a doddle, compared to the 2 x 54litre carboys I have. Full up, they're a real ball breaker, even for a 6'4" 260lb trucker.........
You soon learn that what can't be lifted, can be moved in other ways i.e. pumped.....
And as for the yeast allergy, surely, if bacteria sized stuff can be filtered, and yeast are larger, then sterile filtration should do the trick......
Yeah, I thought of that too. But, I knew if I said anything I would just get myself in trouble - which I do way too often anyway. ;D
Gah! I'm really, really sorry for hijacking the thread back there. I didn't mean to! As for girls got toys, ahem... Carboy toys, that's the ticket!
There once was a man from nantucket, who fermented some honey in a bucket.
He went to rack over, but was confounded by the procedure..
And upon asking was told he should suck it...
(The racking cane that is, to get the transfer going.... errr yeah, then an argument broke out)
The forums lit up with debates about the muck that could be,
If mouth was used to start flowing the juice, from fermentor to secondary;
Spinning was he, to get that mead out of the primary,
That he broke down and spent even more money.
(For an autosiphon! Indeed!)
Well he ran to the brew store where he found his new toy,
And soon he was back sterilizing so he could rack...
His mead from his bucket to his carboy.
Now that that's said, we can safely not dread, that we've somehow gotten off track!
(Yay, I'm back on track with the thread! ;D)
There once was a man from nantucket, who fermented some honey in a bucket.
He went to rack over, but was confounded by the procedure..
And upon asking was told he should suck it...
(The racking cane that is, to get the transfer going.... errr yeah, then an argument broke out
)The forums lit up with debates about the muck that could be,
If mouth was used to start flowing the juice, from fermentor to secondary;
Spinning was he, to get that mead out of the primary,
That he broke down and spent even more money.
(For an autosiphon! Indeed!)
Well he ran to the brew store where he found his new toy,
And soon he was back sterilizing so he could rack...
His mead from his bucket to his carboy.
Now that that's said, we can safely not dread, that we've somehow gotten off track!
(Yay, I'm back on track with the thread! ;D)
I don't know if suppliments would work like yogurt in the way that Chevette mentioned, but they might be helpful in other ways as an effective substitute for the dreaded yogurt.
I don't watch TV so I have no idea what the Activia people say, although I've never had that kind of effect from yogurt and some days I have eaten a LOT, but hey, every body's different. Acidophalus lactobacillus supplements do the same thing and have a higher bacteria count than yogurt. I just happened to have developed a taste for the stuff.
SO much worse. This is me, being good. See? Good Chevette Girl.
There once was a man from nantucket, who fermented some honey in a bucket.
He went to rack over, but was confounded by the procedure..
And upon asking was told he should suck it...
(The racking cane that is, to get the transfer going.... errr yeah, then an argument broke out
The forums lit up with debates about the muck that could be,
If mouth was used to start flowing the juice, from fermentor to secondary;
Spinning was he, to get that mead out of the primary,
That he broke down and spent even more money.
(For an autosiphon! Indeed!)
Well he ran to the brew store where he found his new toy,
And soon he was back sterilizing so he could rack...
His mead from his bucket to his carboy.
Now that that's said, we can safely not dread, that we've somehow gotten off track!
(Yay, I'm back on track with the thread! ;D)
Bravo!!! :hello2:
Perhaps I should have said far more tasteless? Potentially offensive?
I'm really doing my best not to be as bad as I'd like to be right now and I'm trying to ignore that tongue. It's soooo hard.
How bad would you like to be?? Now you've got me thinking bad. Not that I wasn't already, but you're encouraging me. Stop it!
