Making hard cider

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Method: My wife and I find a bunch of golden delicious apples, and we press them with a cider press. Hand-crank, takes awhile but you'll build muscles you didn't know you had or needed.

I fortify quite a bit actually; for about 4 gallons of fresh cider, I add 10lbs white sugar. None of the yeasts I've used have been able to take this dry, so the final residual sweetness is a bit different every year. Final abv in the 14-15% range, depending on the hardiness of the yeast. No fermentation management used whatsoever; the recipe taught to us was a pitch and forget method. We'd get more active in managing the ferment if there seemed a reason to do so, but with the amount of nutrients added by the cider, it just hasn't been necessary for us. We've started with OGs around 1.135, and finished out around 1.02 with more consistency than I would have expected, knowing what I do now about fermentation management.

No mixing of varieties is really necessary. I'm sure you can get more/different/better/worse flavors imparted by mixing various apple types, but we've found that using pure golden delicious cider has absolutely amazing results with our recipe, such as it is.

I reread what I wrote earlier, seems a little inflammatory if taken incorrectly. My point is that if you're looking at moving to pressing apples from using store-bought/pasteurized/otherwise treated juice/cider, there is no need to jump straight into using the more expensive varieties of apples. You will get consistent and very good results from the more basic apples, such as golden delicious. The insinuation that you shouldn't, can't, or wouldn't want to use them for this purpose is simply incorrect.

With regard to cider sweetness, well, I'm not sure how much sweeter you might want it. The 700lbs of golden delicious apples we pressed on Sunday turned into 35 gallons of cider with an sg of 1.05. More than enough sweet for me :). Note: that works out to 20lbs per gallon of cider produced, using a manually-operated cider press. Big screw-type, no hydraulics here.

Hope this helps.
 
The grinder that is attached to the press :) I thought that was pretty standard, is it not? I've used three presses over the years, and all of them had a grinder attached to them that dump the ground up apples directly into the pressing basket.
 
Well, the distinction is more between an apple wine and a cyser, both of which are higher ABV and usually not carbonated.

Cider is generally just apple juice fermented (other than cheaper mass produced ones), 5-7% ABV and carbonated.
 
I'll have to agree with icedmetal here. I've had some phenomenal Red Delicious apples, which are generally considered the cardboard of the apple world since stores usually sell them for looks, not taste. But get a fresh one and it actually tastes good! Go to the orchard, pick out your apples. Can't go wrong.
 
Well, the distinction is more between an apple wine and a cyser, both of which are higher ABV and usually not carbonated.

Cider is generally just apple juice fermented (other than cheaper mass produced ones), 5-7% ABV and carbonated.

This is the direction I'm heading in years to come. Yet I am torn by " Still or Carbonated", I enjoy both. My plan this season will be to use Golden Russet's as the sole apple for my cider. I will be hoping the final ABV ends up in the middle 6% range on it's own without the addition of sugars? They crop late into early November to middle of the month time frame, so will have to wait and see where the sugar content is this year. I do enjoy drinking cider at this ABV range, makes for a nice refreshing drink IMO. Yet I look forward to trying the cyser's and apple wines to compare.
It was a good year in New York for the growing season too, Hot and average rainfall... I have planted a small amount of Russet's and Stoke Reds for future needs, alas it will be a few more years before they produce... Now I have to ramp up my equipment to process the apples for next years attempt at cider making from scratch. Look forward to hearing of others approach to this fine drink.

TB
 
I will be hoping the final ABV ends up in the middle 6% range on it's own without the addition of sugars?


All of my apples, many different trees and three different varieties, all come in a 1.056 without any variance to speak of. Finish is usually just above 1.000. That works out to around 7%. This seems very repeatable so Id think you would have no problem hitting 7%. It really depends on your gravity to start. Id be real interested to see how close to 1.056 you get. Im curious if this is a standard gravity for all apples or I am just abnormally lucky that all mine seem to come in the same.
 
The grinder that is attached to the press :) I thought that was pretty standard, is it not? I've used three presses over the years, and all of them had a grinder attached to them that dump the ground up apples directly into the pressing basket.

The reason I asked is that I bought a nice press but I didn't buy the grinder because I didn't think I would be making any big batches and I was hoping to use a food processor. Well, I made 1/2 gallon of crabapple juice using a blender to crush them and it was a big pain in the ass. I guess I'll have to get the grinder.
 
The reason I asked is that I bought a nice press but I didn't buy the grinder because I didn't think I would be making any big batches and I was hoping to use a food processor. Well, I made 1/2 gallon of crabapple juice using a blender to crush them and it was a big pain in the ass. I guess I'll have to get the grinder.

Lots of home brew places rent them as well.
 
All of my apples, many different trees and three different varieties, all come in a 1.056 without any variance to speak of. Finish is usually just above 1.000. That works out to around 7%. This seems very repeatable so Id think you would have no problem hitting 7%. It really depends on your gravity to start. Id be real interested to see how close to 1.056 you get. Im curious if this is a standard gravity for all apples or I am just abnormally lucky that all mine seem to come in the same.

Triarchy,

When the juice comes in I will let you know where the gravity is.
Thanks,

TB
 
The reason I asked is that I bought a nice press but I didn't buy the grinder because I didn't think I would be making any big batches and I was hoping to use a food processor. Well, I made 1/2 gallon of crabapple juice using a blender to crush them and it was a big pain in the ass. I guess I'll have to get the grinder.

Lots of folks are using a 1/2 hp disposal mounted in a bench with the output going into a bucket. Check out "garbage disposal apple grinder" on youtube. Also lots of good ideas on building a hydraulic press.
 
All of my apples, many different trees and three different varieties, all come in a 1.056 without any variance to speak of. Finish is usually just above 1.000. That works out to around 7%. This seems very repeatable so Id think you would have no problem hitting 7%. It really depends on your gravity to start. Id be real interested to see how close to 1.056 you get. Im curious if this is a standard gravity for all apples or I am just abnormally lucky that all mine seem to come in the same.

Triarchy,

Just a followup to your gravity question.
I just received my Golden Russet Juice...Wonderfully smooth flavor too!
I took a sample and used the refractometer which shows a Brix reading of 15 :o
Which puts me at a starting gravity of 1.078 I believe.
The Ph meter came in at 3.8 which from all I have read is perfect....
Can't wait to see how it all comes together this spring...

TB
 
I'll have to agree with icedmetal here. I've had some phenomenal Red Delicious apples, which are generally considered the cardboard of the apple world since stores usually sell them for looks, not taste. But get a fresh one and it actually tastes good! Go to the orchard, pick out your apples. Can't go wrong.

I didn't mean to dis the every day apples. I am just of the school of thought that blending more than one variety into a juice makes for a rich, complex apple juice that makes single varietals pale in comparison. I have yet to make a cyser/cider this way, but when possible, I make my apple juice with several different varieties.

I will say though, the fresher the better. I'm sure fresh picked Red Delicious will beat store bought any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

There are just too many varietals of apples, and almost none of them grow properly down here, so I guess I'm just really antsy to get my hands on different apples!

P.S. I'll try to post a link to a nice apple guide (ie which are best used for baking, cider making, eating, juicing, etc)

Edit: Here's an awesome company that I've ordered from before.

http://www.treesofantiquity.com/

I think their catalog has the chart about which apples are best for what. Plus they've got some awesome varietals of plenty other than apples. It's just a drag living where we don't get at least some frost...*sigh*
 
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Oh man, I'd pick San Diego's weather over Seattle's any day... Between 60 and 80 all year? Yum.

How boring... :eek:

Weather in New England is just getting good (to me)... If it was under 75 for a summer high, I'd be in heaven... I'll gladly put up with mind blowing cold (outside) to have the mild summers... Actually trying to get a job where the weather is closer to that range (for highs)... Sure would make brewing mead/beer and aging mead much easier...
 
How boring... :eek:

Weather in New England is just getting good (to me)... If it was under 75 for a summer high, I'd be in heaven... I'll gladly put up with mind blowing cold (outside) to have the mild summers... Actually trying to get a job where the weather is closer to that range (for highs)... Sure would make brewing mead/beer and aging mead much easier...

Yep!
All in All we got it pretty good on this old East Coast...

TB
 
It's just a drag living where we don't get at least some frost...*sigh*

Yes, it's tough to bear, but some of us have to make the sacrifice. lol. :rolleyes:

Of course, where apples are lacking other fruits may make up for it. I just started a starfruit juice fermentation that I hope will turn out well. I'm not sure what you should call that; starfruit cider makes it sound like you added starfruit to apple juice. I guess if pears make perry, starfruit could make starry. :icon_scratch:

Any suggestions are appreciated.